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>> CATHY: COMING UP ON "ALMANAC," THE LATEST ON THE CYBER-ATTACK ON THE CITY OF ST. PAUL WITH MAYOR CARTER.

THE TWINS SHOCKING DEADLINE DAY TRADES WITH LARRY FITZGERALD.

SHELETTA BRUNDIDGE IS HERE WITH AN ESSAY.

AND MARY LAHAMMER CONTINUES LOOKING AT CAPITOL SECURITY CONCERNS.

>> Mary: FOLLOWING A DISTURBING BREAK IN AT THE CAPITOL THE STATE WILL BE HIRING AN OUTSIDE EXPERT FOR SECURITY REVIEW HERE.

WE'LL PUT IT ALL IN CONTEXT ... >> IT'S TERRIFYING.

>> UNDERSTANDABLY SHAKEN SOME PEOPLE'S SENSE OF SECURITY.

>> Mary: THAT'S COMING UP ON "ALMANAC."

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>> CATHY: COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR, LARRY FITZGERALD ON THE MINNESOTA TWINS' UNPRECEDENTED TRADE DEADLINE DAY.

KAOMI LEE TRAVELED TO COOK COUNTY TO HIGHLIGHT RELATIONSHIP-BUILDING THROUGH AN ANIMAL WELFARE PROGRAM.

WE'LL HEAR ABOUT A NEW EFFORT TO BRING POLITICAL OPPOSITES TOGETHER.

>> ERIC: WE START TONIGHT WITH THE BIG CYBER-ATTACK ON THE CITY OF ST. PAUL.

IT BEGAN LATE LAST WEEK AND LED TO THE SHUTTING DOWN OF MOST INTERNET-BASED SERVICES IN THE CITY.

A STATE OF EMERGENCY WAS DECLARED THAT BROUGHT IN ASSISTANCE FROM THE NATIONAL GUARD AND THE F.B.I.

MAYOR MELVIN CARTER IS HERE.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

A WEEK HAS PASSED.

WHAT'S THE STATUS.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON.

WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD.

THE STATUS IS THAT OUR ST. PAUL CITY EMPLOYEES ARE ONE OF THE MOST INCREDIBLE CREW OF PEOPLE ON THE PLANET.

THEY HAVE WORKED HARD TO JUST TO SIMPLE THINGS LIKE MAKE SURE 911 SERVICES ARE ONLINE SINCE THE GIBB BEGINNING OF THIS THICK.

TO MAKE SURE OUR EMPLOYEES MPLOT PAID.

LITERALLY ON THE FLY, MANUALIZE THEM.

THAT'S A NEW WORD THAT I'VE NEW USED BEFORE THIS PAST WEEK AND DO THINGS KIND OF BEFORE HAND AND FIGURING STUFF OUT.

WE GOT A MAKE-SHIFT CONFERENCE ROOM FULL OF PAYROLL EMPLOYEES.

WE ARE PUSHING BACK ON THIS THING.

I THINK OUR -- >> Cathy: WHAT'S STILL DOWN AT THIS POINT?

>> MANY OF OUR SYSTEMS ARE DOWN AND THEY'RE DOWN BECAUSE WE TOOK THEM DOWN.

THEY'RE DOWN BECAUSE WE TOOK THEM DOWN PROACTIVELY TO KEEP THE THING FROM SPREADING.

SO THING LIKE W WI-FI IN OUR PUBLIC LIBRARIES.

THINGS LIKE OUR VOICE-OVER INTERNET PROTOCOL.

SO WE TOOK A LOT OF THAT STUFF DOWN TO JUST STOP THE SPREAD AND BE ABLE TO PRESS PAUSE ON THAT THAT.

WE GOT MOST OF THE PHONES BACK UP FOR ALL OF DEPARTMENTS AND AT LEAST ONE WI-FI HOT SPOT IN EVERY LOCATION.

>> Eric: CITY WORKERS AND RESIDENTS, SHOULD THEY BE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL DATA?

>> WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ABILITY.

I CAN'T COMPLETELY RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT CITY WORKERS, THAT SOME DATA ON CITY WORKERS HAS -- COULD HAVE BEEN STOLEN, WHICH IS WHY THIS WEEK, WE BE ACTED TO ADVISE CITY WORKERS, PUT A FREEDZ ON YOUR CREDIT AND TAKE STEPS AROUND YOUR DIGITAL IDENTITY.

IF YOU LIVE IN ST. PAUL, AND YOU DON'T WORK FOR HE CITY, WE DON'T AVE MUCH SENSITIVE INFORMATION ON OU.

>> Cathy: RAMSEY COUNTY IS HOUSED KIND OF RIGHT NEXT TO Y'ALL.

AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS EVIDENTLY.

SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS, WHAT WAS THE HOLE IN YOUR SYSTEM?

DO THE EXPERTS THINK?

>> WE ALL HAVE SEPARATE SYSTEMS AND THESE THINGS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.

CITIES, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS ARE CONSTANTLY UNDER ATTACK AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE AND WE ALL IN THE LAST WEEK GOT A TEXT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A MOTOR VEHICLE SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO LET -- YEAH.

SO OUR SYSTEMS ARE ALWAYS UNDER ATTACK.

JUST CONSTANTLY.

AND SO I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY STRONG SYSTEMS AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M LEARNING FROM SOME OF THE CYBER SECURITY EXPERTS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH IS, THESE DAYS, IT'S LIKE YOU BUILD A WALL AND YOU NEVER EXPECT SOMEBODY TO GET THROUGH, YOU HAVE THE PROTOCOLS TO JUMP INTO ACTION.

THAT'S WHAT UR TEAMS DID AND THEY PUT US IN A BETTER POSITION.

>> Cathy: WILL YOU KEEP HAVING TO BUILD WALLS THICKER AND HIGHER IN A SENSE?

WHAT'S YOUR I.T.

STAFF GOING TO HAVE TO DO MOIVING FORWARD?

>> WE'RE ASSESSING A LOT OF THOSE THINGS RIGHT NOW.

FRANKLY, A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE FORENSICS INVESTIGATION OF PUTTING BACK THE SYSTEMS, PUTTING BACK TOGETHER THE SYSTEMS THAT WE TOOK FFLINE.

THINK EASK THROUGH GAIN OUR CYBER SECURITY PROTOCOLS.

WE'VE MADE A LOT OF INVESTMENTS VER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN CYBER SECURITY THAT PUT US IN A PLACE TO BE ABLE TO BE IN SUCH A STRONG POSITION.

>> >> Eric: WHO'S RESPONSIBLE?

HAVE YOU HAD A REQUEST FOR RANSOM?

>> ALL THE INVESTIGATORS, WE'RE INVOLVED IN THE FORENSICS INVESTIGATION AROUND MAKING SURE OUR SYSTEMS ARE CLEAN, MAKING SURE OUR DEVICES ARE CLEAN, GIVING ADVICE TO CITY EMPL EMPLOYEES.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AT SOME POINT AND I'LL BE LISTENING JUST LIKE YOU WILL TO HEAR LIKE THEM NAME SOMEBODY AND HOLD SOMEBODY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS.

>> Eric: COST OF THIS TO THE CITY AND DO YOU HAVE INSURANCE OR THROUGH THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES?

>> WE'RE A SELF-INSURED CITY AND THE TRUTH IS I DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY.

OUR CITY COUNCIL, OUR CITY COUNCIL EXTENDED THAT TODAY FOR US FOR 90 DAYS.

AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN THERE'S A FIRE, WE GO PUT OUT THE FIRE AND FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH THE WATER COSTS AFTER THE FACT.

WE GOT A ROOM FULL OF -- SHOUT-OUT TO ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES IN THE E.O.C.

I WISH PEOPLE COULD SEE JUST HOW HARD ST. PAUL WORKERS HAVE BEEN WORKING.

LEXI, THE AXOLOTL UNTIL THE LIBRARY, IS COMPLETELY ANALOG.

GO VISITS PARK OR THE COMO ZOO IS DE FREE THIS WEEKEND JUST LIE IT WAS LAST WEEKEND AND EVERY WEEKEND IN COMO ZOO'S EXISTENCE.

>> Cathy: CURIOUS ABOUT AN AFTER ACTION REPORT ON THIS.

I MEAN, THERE'S GOING TO BE LEARNINGS TO BE TAKEN FROM THIS, OBVIOUSLY.

ANY EARLY INDICATIONS AS TO WHAT YOU'VE BEEN LEARNING IN TERMS OF JUST LONG TERM?

>> YEAH, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR A LOT OF THOSE THINGS.

AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, OUR FOCUS THIS WEEK HAS BEEN REALLY ON TWO THINGS.

ONE HAS BEEN THE NETWORK PIECES.

THINKING ABOUT HOW WE GET OUR NETWORKS CLEAN AND GET THEM BACK ONLINE.

TWO HAS BEEN JUST THE OPERATIONAL CONTINUITY.

LIKE I SAID, THE FIRST PRIORITY FROM THE BEGINNING WAS MAKING SURE 911 SERVICES WERE UNIMPACTED.

THEY ARE UNIMPACTED.

OUR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, OUR AMBULANCE SERVICES ARE ON THEIR WAY.

AND IN SOME CASES, THE OPERATIONAL CONTINUITY HAVE HAD TO TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER TRYING TO GET OUR NETWORKS BACK ONLINE.

FOR EXAMPLE, PAYROLL, LIKE, IF WE FAIL TO MAKE PAYROLL, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO PUT THE NETWORKS BACK ONLINE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO THAT PAYROLL TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING HARD.

THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS HAVE BEEN WORKING HAD.

WE'VE BEEN REALLY IMMERSED IN THOSE MISSIONS OVER THE PAST -- THE 14 YEARS THAT HAVE PASSED SINCE MONDAY.

[ Laughter ] >> Eric: THANKS, MAYOR FOR COMING ON.

♪♪ >> I NEVER IMAGINED MYSELF BEING AT ONE OF THESE TYPES OF EVENTS.

YOU SEE THEM ON TV AND YOU FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE AT THEM.

AND I JUST NEVER IN MY LIFE IMAGINED MYSELF AT ONE OF THOSE EVENTS.

>> PLEASE JOIN ME N BOWING YOUR HEAD FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

BUT TURN YOUR HEAD TO THE NEW 35W BRIDGE.

FOR THE UNFURLING OF N AMERICAN FLAG.

♪♪ >> CATHY: ANOTHER BUSY WEEK IN WASHINGTON, D.C., AS PRESIDENT TRUMP'S TARIFFS CONTINUE TO RESHAPE THE WORLD ECONOMY.

THE EPSTEIN SCANDAL CONTINUES TO FOLLOW THE PRESIDENT.

AND THE ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES TO FOCUS ON MINNESOTA WITH AN ATTACK ON THE "STAR TRIBUNE'S" COVERAGE OF IMMIGRATION POLICY.

CINDY RUGELEY MADE THE DRIVE DOWN I-35 TO JOIN US.

HOPE FRANK WASOKAY.

SHE HEADS UP THE POLITICAL SCIENCE DEPARTMENT AT UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, DULUTH.

THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA'S TWIN CITIES CAMPUS IS HOME TO LARRY JACOBS, WHERE HE HEADS UP THE HUMPHREY SCHOOL'S CENTER FOR POLITICS AND GOVERNANCE.

SAY, I'M CURIOUS HERE.

PROFESSOR JACOBS.

THE WEAK JOB NUMBERS THIS MORNING.

THE PRESIDENT FIRED THE HEAD OF THE LABOR STATISTICS DEPARTMENT, SAYING THAT THE FIGURES WERE RIGGED, HE FEELS, AND IT'S -- SHE'S A BIDEN EMPLOYEE.

HISTORY'S BEEN SANITIZED AT THE SMITHSONIAN.

THERE'S BEEN AN INFORMATIONAL DISPLAY TAKEN DOWN OF THE PRESIDENT'S IMPEACHMENTS.

AND I'M WONDERING, WHAT'S THE ULTIMATE COST OF THESE INSTANCES OF WHERE -- IF THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T LIKE SOMETHING, HE JUST IGNORES IT OR TRIES TO MAKE IT GO AWAY?

>> IT'S A REAL PROBLEM.

I MEAN, IT'S A PROBLEM FOR OUR DEMOCRACY, WHAT DO PEOPLE BELIEVE?

IT'S A PROBLEM FOR OUR BUSINESSES.

BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO MAKE DECISIONS.

AND FOR INSTANCE, DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, IT'S NOT JUST THE POLITICAL NUMBER.

THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF DATA THAT COMES OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR THAT ALL SORTS OF BUSINESSES RELY ON TO MAKE INVESTMENTS.

SO THERE'S A CASCADE OF EFFECTS.

WE NEED TO LIVE IN A REALITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE CONFIDENT.

IN THE CORE ELEMENTS OF THAT.

AND I THINK WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE IS UNFORTUNATE.

BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S, FRANKLY, A WAY FOR HIM TO RUN AWAY FROM BAD JOB NUMBERS OR BAD INFLATION NUMBERS.

I MEAN, THIS REALITY, IF IT CONTINUES TO EVOLVE, AS THE TARIFFS GO INTO PLACE OVER THE NEXT YEAR WHICH IS WHAT "THE ECONOMISTS" ARE REPORTING, IT'S GOING TO BE APPARENT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I DON'T THINK BLAMING THE MESSENGER IS GOING TO WORK LONG TERM.

>> Eric: WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS, PROFESSOR?

>> I THINK ULTIMATELY WHAT IT DOES IS IT CONTINUES TO DIMINISH TRUST IN GOVERNMENT.

ANYONE HE APPOINTS, THOUSAND THERE'SGOING TO BE DOUBTS ABOUTR RELIABILITY AND CREDITED CREDIB.

IT ALSO GOES INTO OTHER THINGS.

FOR INSTANCE, HIS 2020 ELECTION DENIAL HAS CAST A WHOLE LOT OF DOUBT ON THE LEGITIMACY OF ELECTIONS.

IT CAUSES PEOPLE TO NO LONGER TRUST THEIR GOVERNMENT AND THAT'S NOT HEALTHY FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT LARRY JUST STATED.

>> Eric: I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS MIDTERM REDISTRICTING MODIFICATION THAT'S GOING ON IN TEXAS AND ELSE WHERE.

IS THAT A NEW DEAL?

>> WELL, T VARIES STATE TO STATE BECAUSE STATES CONTROL ELECTION ADMINISTRATION, AND TEXAS, YOU CAN DO IT IF THE GOVERNOR CALLS FOR IT.

>> Eric: BUT THERE AREN'T FRESH POPULATION AND GEM GRAPHIC NUMBERS, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT.

SO FOR INSTANCE IN CALIFORNIA WHAT THEY COULD COOK UP A BUNCH OF SEATS -- >> Eric: T'S A DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED STATE.

>> BUT THERE'S A LAW THAT SETS UP AN INDEPENDENT PROCESS.

AND SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME REAL GYMNASTICS IF CALIFORNIA WANTS TO FOLLOW TEXAS AND TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GERRYMANDER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A DANGEROUS -- ANOTHER DANGEROUS ROAD TO GO DOWN.

I MEAN, ALREADY, TEXAS IS WAY OUT OF WHACK IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF EMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS.

AND THE NUMBER OF REPUBLICAN MEMBERS IN THE HOUSE.

>> Cathy: AND YOU WOULD KNOW THAT GIVEN YOUR BACKGROUND.

>> TEXAS DID THIS ABOUT 10, 12 YEARS AGO, MIDTERM REDISTRICTING, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, REALLY INCREASED THE NUMBER OF REPUBLICAN SEATS.

AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY SAYING IS THAT -- I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, ANY TIME, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT OUR SUPREME COURT HAS SAID SOMEBODY CAN GIVE AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY WANT TO A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN, OR STATES CAN REDRAW DISTRICTS, GERRYMANDER DISTRICTS ANY AY THEY WANT, IT MAKES IT REAL DIFFICULT TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY.

IT PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON PEOPLE.

BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING S, IF YOU GET 52% OF THE VOTE, YOU GET ALL THE REPRESENTATION.

THE OTHER PEOPLE DON'T GET ANY REPRESENTATION.

AND I DON'T HINK THAT'S WHAT ANYBODY REALLY WANTS.

>> Cathy: I'M SURE THERE'S VIEWERS SAYING, OKAY, WE'VE JUST OUTLINED SOME PRETTY SERIOUS THINGS HERE.

HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU CHANGE THIS AND TURN THIS AROUND?

>> WELL, THERE'S NO MAGIC BULLET.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED, REPUBLICANS, CONCERNED THAT THE REDISTRICTING IN TEXAS COULD BACKFIRE, ECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE EXPECTATION THAT SPANISH-SPEAKING VOTERS WHO TRENDED TRUMP'S WAY IN THE LAST ELECTION ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT WAY.

WELL, LET'S SAY BECAUSE THE ECONOMY HAS A DOWNTURN AND THERE'S A USUAL BACKLASH AGAINST THE PRESIDENT'S PARTY, IN THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THERE'S A RUN AWAY FROM REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES.

MAYBE THERE'LL BE SOME, YOU KNOW, CURRENT REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO LOSE THEIR SEATS.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE KIND OF RHETORIC ASIDE, THAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL REALITY.

WE'LL HAVE AN ELECTION.

IN 2026.

AND YOU COULD TRY TO COOK IT, BUT MAYBE THAT RECIPE WON'T WORK.

>> Eric: THE EPSTEIN STUFF.

IS IT JUST A SUMMERTIME, IT'S SLOW, NEWS, AND SO IT'S A DIVERSION FOR CABLE NEWS?

OR IS THERE MORE GOING ON THERE?

>> I THINK THAT -- I MEAN, A COUPLE OF DIMENSIONS.

ONE, OF COURSE THERE ARE A LOT OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARILY WHAT'S AT PLAY HERE.

I THINK YOU'VE GOT A SITUATION WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE OF A CERTAIN POWER OR A CERTAIN WEALTH CLASS GET AWAY WITH A LOT OF STUFF, THAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOESN'T.

AND THEY DON'T LIKE IT.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A REALISTIC CONCERN.

AND I THINK THEY SAW, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PRESIDENT TRUMP AS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, SOMEBODY THAT DIDN'T DO THAT.

AND NOW WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT REINFORCES IN A LOT OF PEOPLE'S MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, HE KNEW ABOUT THIS AND COVERED IT UP AND HE'S -- AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, CORE BASIS, THERE'S NO MONOLITHIC VOTING BLOC FOR EITHER PARTY.

BUT I THINK IT STAYS ON THERE.

AND MAYBE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TALKED ABOUT, BUT IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE UNDER THE SURFACE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HAPPENING AND WE DON'T LIKE IT.

>> YEAH, IT'S PART OF THE POPULIST BACKLASH THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS HELPS TO IGNITE AND FIRE, AND OF COURSE HE WAS PART OF BUILDING THIS SENSE THAT THERE WAS THE BIG LIE, THAT THERE WAS A LIST THAT WAS BEING HELD BY BIDEN, THAT HE WOULD RELEASE IT.

HE GETS INTO POWER, AND THEN HE'S TELLING HIS SUPPORTERS TO SHUT UP AND GO ON TO SOMETHING ELSE.

DEMOCRATS ARE EAGER TO HAVE INVESTIGATIONS IN CONGRESS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THEM TRYING TO USE IT AS A WAY TO OPEN UP QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRUTHFULNESS OF DONALD TRUMP.

>> Cathy: I'M WONDERING WONDERIG ABOUT GOING AFTER MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS.

I THOUGHT THE "STAR TRIBUNE" ATTACK WAS INTERESTING IN HAT IT WAS SUCH A LOCALIZED ATTACK.

OF COURSE THE C.P.B.

JUST SHUT UP SHOP TODAY, CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTS.

WHAT DO YOU BOTH MAKE OF THE ATTACKS ON MEDIA?

>> IT'S WORKED.

IN SOME INSTANCES, IT HAS, AND I THINK IT'S AN ATTEMPT AT INTIMIDATION.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS REAL SURPRISED THAT HE PICKED OUT THE "STAR TRIBUNE" IN ONE WAY, BUT IN ANOTHER, I THINK MINNESOTA'S GOING TO BE ON, ANY TIME HE CAN TAKE AT SHOT AT SOMETHING HERE, HE WILL.

>> HERE'S THE "STAR TRIBUNE" DOING WHAT I WOULD SAY IS BOOTSTRAP REPORTING, FINDING THE 40% OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ROUNDED BY I.C.E.

HAVE NO CRIMINAL RECORDS AND THAT GOES DIRECTLY AGAINST DONALD TRUMP'S ARGUMENT THAT DEPORTATIONS IS GOING TO BE AIMED AT GETTING THE CRIMINALS, THE RAPISTS, OUT OF AMERICA.

TUXES OUT THE "STAR TRIBUNE" IS SAYING, WELL, A WHOLE LOT OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE BEING ROUNDED UP DON'T FIT THAT AND THAT'S A THREAT.

AND SO WHAT DO YOU DO?

YOU TRY TO DISCREDIT THE MESSENGER.

WILL IT WORK IN MAYBE FOR M.A.G.A.

BELIEVERS.

BUT IN THE COMING YEARS, DONALD TRUMP'S CREDIBILITY IS GOING TO TAKE A REAL HIT.

>> Eric: STARTED AUGUST WITH A BANG.

THANKS, PANEL.

♪♪ >> ERIC: THURSDAY WAS TRADE DEADLINE DAY FOR MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL.

WITH THE MINNESOTA TWINS' LOSING WAYS CONTINUING AFTER THE ALL-STAR BREAK IN JULY, EVERYONE EXPECTED THEM TO BE SELLERS.

BUT NO ONE PREDICTED THAT BY THE TIME THE DUST SETTLED YESTERDAY, THE TEAM WOULD TRADE TEN PLAYERS THIS WEEK, INCLUDING FORMER ALL-STAR SHORTSTOP CARLOS CORREA AND CLOSER JHOAN DURAN.

LARRY FITZGERALD SENIOR IS BACK.

WHEN HE’S NOT CHATTING WITH US, FITZY DOES RADIO WORK WITH THE NATIONAL PROGRAMMING NETWORK.

GOOD, BAD, OR WE DON'T KNOW?

>> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR.

WE WENT INTO THIS SEASON WITH THE TEAM FOR SALE.

AND FALVEY, YOU KNOW, DEREK FALVEY, YOU KNOW, SO-CALLED, WHAT, ACTING PRESIDENT OR MANAGER, BUT TO TRADE TEN PLAYERS.

I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TWINS ARE TELLING THEIR FANS.

I WAS AT THE BALLPARK WEDNESDAY, THERE WAS 30,000 PEOPLE THERE.

THEY GOT SMASHED.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, SINCE THE ALL-STAR BREAK, THEY'RE ONLY 4-8 AND THEY'RE 51-57.

THEY'RE DOWN RIGHT NOW TO CLEVELAND.

SO THIS IS A BIZARRE SITUATION.

AND I HOPE MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STEPS IN, BECAUSE I THINK IT SAYS THAT IF YOU LEAVE A TEAM WITHOUT OWNERSHIP, IT CAN GO INTO SEASON AND YOU CAN HAVE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS WHERE THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, BUYER TAKES WHATEVER THEY WANT.

>> Cathy: SO THIS IS KIND OF A FIRE SALE I GUESS, RIGHT?

SO DID THEY IN A SENSE RUIN THE TEAM BY DOING THIS?

CAN THE TEAM BE BUILT BACK UP?

>> THEY WERE DOING OKAY.

THEY WERE HANGING ITH BYRON BUXTON HEALTHYY.

THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF INJURIES.

THEY MISSED PABLO LOPEZ.

HE'S A BIG-TIME STARTER FOR HETHEM AND HE'S BEEN OUT FOR A WHILE.

AND JOE RYAN'S AN ALL-STAR, BUT AFTER THAT, IT'S BEEN HIT AND MISS.

BUXTON LEADS THE TEAM WITH, LIKE, 56R.B.I.s.

AFTER THAT, THERE'S NOBODY, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT ONE GUY IN THE 40s.

YOU GOT TO HAVE GUYS HITTING 60, 70R.B.I.s AND HITTING THE BALL OUT.

PARK TO HANG IN THERE.

>> Cathy: SO DOES THIS MEAN A POTENTIAL BUYER LOOKS AT THE TEAM AND SAYS, I'LL BUY IT NOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THIS BIG S SALARIES OR DO THEY JUST STEER CLEAR?

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU LET A TEAM GO INTO A 162-GAME SCHEDULE AND THERE'S NO OWNER.

I MEAN, THE POHLADS HAVE PULLED BACK AND BASICALLY IT'S A FREE-FALL.

THEY WENT INTO THE SEASON, AND THEY'RE HEALTHING ANALYTICS DO THIS AND THAT, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO TALENT AND PLAYERS WHO ARE COMMITTED AND GUYS THAT ARE HEALTHY.

AND THEY GAVE UP AN ALL-STAR.

DURAN IS LIGHTS OUT.

I MEAN, A 2.01 E.R.A.

50 INNINGS.

56 STRIKEOUTS, 16 SAVES.

IF THEY GAVE THEM MORE OPPORTUNITIES, THEY'D PROBABLY HAVE MORE SAVES.

BUT THIS TEAM IS NOT BUILT THIS WAY.

>> Eric: HAVE YOU ANALYZED THE PROSPECTS?

>> IT'S STILL A LITTLE EARLY FOR THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT NUMBERS FROM GUYS THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN DRAFTED TWO, THREE YEARS, HAVE BEEN IN THE MINORS AND HOW DO YOU GAUGE ONE TEAM'S MINOR LEAGUE SYSTEM OVER ANOTHER, BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT SHEER NUMBERS AND WHAT THE PLAYERS ARE COMING.

I HOPE FALVEY'S DONE HIS HOMEWORK ON THESE GUYS BECAUSE THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY GOING TO START TO PLAY RIGHT AWAY.

>> Eric: ROCCO'S FUTURE?

>> I DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY SEPTEMBER FINISHED LAST YEAR FOR HIM.

AND THIS YEAR, AFTER THAT -- I CAN'T GET THAT TASTE OUT OF MY MOUTH FROM THAT LOSS TO THE RED SOX.

THAT WAS UMILIATING, 3-1, AND THEN TO COME BACK AND TRADE TEN GUYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WOW.

>> Cathy: I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT FANS SAY ABOUT THIS.

WOULD YOU GO BACK OUT TO THE BALLPARK AND SPEND MONEY TO WATCH THESE GUYS.

IT'S LIKE WATCHING A CAR WRECK.

>> BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HOLD ANYTHING AGAINST THE TEAM.

THEY LOVE THE PLAYERS.

BUT THEY REALIZE FROM A MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT, THINGS ARE OUT OF W WHAT WEAK.

>> Cathy: I WONDER WHAT CARL POHLAD WOULD SAY IF HE WAS STILL ALIVE.

>> BASEBALL'S HAVING A PRETTY GOOD YEAR.

THE NATIONAL LEAGUE'S STRONG.

THE AMERICAN LEAGUE LOOKS LIKE TORONTO COULD, WHO KNOWS, BEEN INTERNATIONAL TEAM IN THE WORLD SERIES.

GLEFS YOU'VE TOLD IT LIKE IT WAS.

THANKS FOR COMING OVER.

>> Cathy: THANKS.

♪♪ >> CATHY: 85 DOGS AND CATS WERE SPAYED OR NEUTERED FOR FREE IN GRAND PORTAGE RECENTLY.

MORE THAN 200 PREVENTATIVE VACCINES WERE ALSO GIVEN OUT.

IT WAS PART OF WEEK-LONG TRIBAL VET CLINICS.

REPORTER KAOMI LEE WENT TO COOK COUNTY TO FIND OUT HOW ONE GROUP IS FORGING A RELATIONSHIP WITH MINNESOTA TRIBES THROUGH ANIMAL WELFARE.

ONE NOTE: KAOMI ALSO VOLUNTEERS FOR THE GROUP IN HER SPARE TIME BUT NOT FOR THESE CLINICS.

>> Kaomi: FOR 20-YEAR-OLD ABRIANNA JENKINS, IT WAS LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT.

>> HE'S A BLACK AB, GERMAN SHEPHERD MIX.

>> Kaomi: IT STARTED OUT AS AN IMPULSE.

>> I'VE SEEN A POST ON FACEBOOK.

I WAS GOING THROUGH A LITTLE ROUGH SPOT FOR A LITTLE BIT THERE.

AND WAS KIND OF ALREADY LOOKING AT PUPPIES AND STUFF.

AND THEN I SEEN HIS PICTURE.

AND I WAS JUST, OH, MY GOD, LIKE, I JUST WANT HIM SO BAD.

>> Kaomi: AT THE TIME, ABRIANNA SAID SHE SUFFERED FROM DEPRESSION.

SHE IS A DESCENDANT AND AN ENROLLED MEMBER OF THE LAKE LAKE SUPERIOR BAND OF C CHIPPEWA.

>> I JUST FEEL LIKE HE GIVES ME PURPOSE.

>> HI, WHO IS THIS ADORABLE PUPPY.

>> Kaomi: BUT IT CAN BE EXPENSIVE.

SHE CAME HERE TO A -- THE GROUP OFFERED A WEEK OF FREE VET SERVICES TO THE RAND PORTAGE BAND AND RESIDENTS OF COOK COUNTY.

SPAY AND NEUTER SURGERIES WERE PROVIDED BY MN-SNAP.

IT WAS A WELCOME RELIEF FOR ABRIANNA WHO MAKES 15.70 AN HOUR AS A RECEPTIONIST.

>> 300 I THINK FOR THE NEUTERING AND THE SHOTS AND DEWORMING, IT ALL JUST WOULD HAVE ADDED UP TO BE SO MUCH.

>> Kaomi: BUT THE NEAREST VET IS IN GRAND MARAIS OR SEVERAL HOURS AWAY IN DULUTH.

FOR PEOPLE LIVING ON TRIBAL RESERVATIONS, THE DRIVE FOR SERVICES CAN MAKE THEM OUT OF REACH.

>> WE'RE NE OF THE SMALLEST TRIBES OF ALL THE MINNESOTA CHIPPEWA TRIBES.

IT'S VERY VITAL.

OUR MEMBERS, THEY CAN'T GET TO GRAND MARAIS FOR THE SERVICE.

SOME OF THEM ON'T HAVE VEHICLES.

OR THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY TO PAY FOR THESE SERVICES.

SO THEN THE POPULATION JUST KEEPS EXPANDING FROM THERE.

>> Kaomi: TWO YEARS, SORENSON GOT IN TOUCH WITH THE BOND BETWEEN.

SHE SAYS THERE'S BEEN A SHARP INCREASE IN STRAY CATS ON THE RESERVATION.

THIS YEAR, SPAY AND NEUTER SERVICES WERE ADDED.

>> THERE'S BEEN A HUGE RESPONSE AND THERE WAS A COUPLE HOUSEHOLDS THAT WE WERE INTERESTED IN GETTING DONE.

>> Kaomi: THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR THE BOND BETWEEN HAS PARTNERED WITH HE GRAND PORTAGE TRIBE.

IT HAS RELATIONSHIPS WITH SEVERAL OTHER TRIBES IN THE STATE TOO.

HOW DO YOU APPROACH THIS IN WAY THAT'S CULTURALLY SENSITIVE?

>> IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO IT'S THE FIRST THING WE TALK ABOUT WHEN VOLUNTEERS ARE INTERESTED IN THE PROGRAM BECAUSE UILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP AND THAT PARTNERSHIP LONG TERM WITH THE TRIBE IS SO IMPORTANT.

>> Kaomi: SHE SAYS THEY TALK SPEAKERS TO TALK WITH THE VOLUNTEERS.

>> THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF HISTORICAL TRAUMA AROUND WHITE FOLKS COMING IN, RIGHT, AND DOING THINGS, AND SO BEING AWARE OF THE PHYSICAL SPACE AND EMOTIONAL SPACE YOU TAKE UP IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

>> Kaomi: SHE SAYS THE IMPORTANT PART IS NOT TO SEPARATE THE -- WHEN POSSIBLE, NATIVE VOLUNTEER VETS ARE THERE TOO.

>> IN MY CULTURE IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT, YOUR GIFTS IS NOT YOURS TO KEEP, IT'S YOURS O SHARE.

>> Kaomi: DR. TAYLOR IS A DESCENDANT OF THE RED LAKE NATION AND TEACHES AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA.

SHE SAYS THERE'S NO RESERVATION IN MINNESOTA WITH VETERINARY CARE AND THERE'S A STATEWIDE SHORTAGE OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE PROFESSION AND EVEN MORE SO, VETS KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT NATIVE CULTURE.

>> ESPECIALLY WITH A DEEP-ROOTED CULTURAL UNDERSTANDING ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH ANIMALS.

>> Kaomi: CAME WITH HER TWO DOGS AND TWO CATS.

THREE OUT OF THE FOUR DID VERY WELL.

SO THE ONE WAS JUST FIXED THE OTHER DAY, SO HE'S NOT HAVING IT TODAY.

>> Kaomi: HER PETS GOT EXAMS, RABIES AND DISTEMPER VACCINES, DEWORMER, HEART WORM AND FLEE AND TICK PREVENTION.

>> WE GOT TO GO SO FAR AWAY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE IT THAT FAR, SO IT'S WONDERFUL THEY COME HERE.

♪♪ >> CATHY: ROCHESTER-BASED MAYO CLINIC IS USING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WITH THE AIM TO SPEED UP HEALTHCARE.

TO TRY HEALTHCARE.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, MAYO LAUNCHED ITS DIGITAL PATHOLOGY DIVISION WITH THEIR PARTNER NVIDIA.

AND ON MONDAY, THE DEPARTMENT ANNOUNCED THE IMPLEMENTATION OF NVIDIA SYSTEMS TO BOOST THEIR A.I.

CAPABILITIES.

JIM ROGERS IS CEO OF MAYO CLINIC DIGITAL PATHOLOGY.

ALONG WITH HIM IS DR. MATTHEW CALLSTROM, WHO IS THE LEAD OF MAYO'S GENERATIVE A.I.

PROGRAM.

I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU, DOCTOR, BECAUSE YOU'RE A RADIOLOGIST.

SO YOU'RE USED TO SKIING SCANS AND MAKING DIAGNOSES.

HOW WILL THIS A.I.

HELP PATHOLOGISTS MAYBE SPEED UP THEIR DIAGNOSIS AND MAYBE HELP DO BETTER DIAGNOSTICS?

>> YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND RADIOLOGY WAS THE FIRST AREA WHERE WE STARTED TO DEVELOP A.I.

SOLUTIONS.

AND WITH THIS, WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO IS SEE THINGS WITH THESE NEW A.I.

TECHNIQUES.

AND SO WE CAN TAKE AND IDENTIFY, FOR EXAMPLE, EARLY STAGE CANCERS INCLUDING PANCREATIC CANCER, AND WITH THAT, IMPROVE OUTCOMES FOR PATIENTS BECAUSE WE CAN DIAGNOSE THEM EARLIER.

WHERE THEY'RE TYPICALLY DIAGNOSED LATE.

IF YOU TRANSLATE THAT TO PATHOLOGY, WHAT YOU CAN DO IS GO FROM TODAY O LARGELY ANALOG TO NOW GOING DIGITAL AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY START TO CHARACTERIZE AND IDENTIFY CANCER CELLS.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE AN UNSTAINED SLIDE AND GENERATE THINGS THAT ARE MORE ESOTERIC IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND START TO IDENTIFY WHAT TYPES OF CANCERS AND THE STAGES OF CANCER, ARE THEY GRADES OF CANCER AS YOU DO THAT.

AND WHAT IT DOES IS ALLOW YOU TO TRAIN ON THAT DATA.

>> Cathy: IN TERMS OF TRAINING ON DATA, YOU MUST HAVE MILLIONS OF SLIDES.

>> WE DO.

AND IN PATHOLOGY IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE OVER 21 MILLION SLIDES RIGHT NOW.

SO THIS IS PART OF OUR ARCHIVE.

WE WENT BACK AND SCANNED OUR ARCHIVE.

THE MAYO BROTHERS ACTUALLY STARTED IT.

SO WE HAVE SLIDES IN OUR ARCHIVE, G GLASS SLIDES WITH THEIR HANDWRITING ON IT.

THESE ARE SLIDES THAT THEY USED IN THEIR SURGERIES ALL THE AY TO THE PRESENT.

AND MAYO IS A FULLY DIGITIZED PRACTICE RIGHT NOW.

SO IN ADDITION TO OUR ARCHIVE, WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY ADDING TO IT THROUGH OUR CURRENT-DAY DIGITIZATION PROCESS.

>> Eric: DOES THIS HAVE AN IMPACT AT ALL ON HEALTHCARE COSTS FOR THE CONSUMER, FOR THE PATIENT?

>> WHAT IT WILL DO, EVENTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THE WORK THAT'S DONE IN HEALTHCARE, PATHOLOGY IS A CRITICAL TEST.

IF YOU CAN GET TO THE RIGHT DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT FASTER, YOU ACTUALLY AVOID WHAT TAKES TYPICALLY A LONG TERM FOR THAT TO HAPPEN FORFORMOST PATIENTS AND THAT WIL SAVE COSTS.

>> Cathy: ARE YOU RUNNING INTO ANY ISSUES WITH HALLUCINATIONS AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SOME GLITCHES?

BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL TRAINING THE ALGORITHMS, RIGHT?

>> WE'RE STILL BUILDING THEM.

WE'VE WORKED ON A FRONTIER OR FOUNDATION MODEL AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AN ACCURATE MODEL AND THE BEAUTY OF USING THAT MODEL IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SO MUCH DATA TO BE ABLE TO RUN YOUR ALGORITHMS AND BUILD THEM.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROCESSES THAT WE WILL USE TO ENSURE THAT THE ALGORITHMS ARE SAFE, EFFECTIVE, AND ACCURATE, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE KEEP A HUMAN IN THE LOOP.

SO THE A.I.

IS GOING TO RECOMMEND, BUT THE A.I.

IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.

A HUMAN WILL AKE THE FINAL DECISION.

>> Eric: AND PEOPLE'S PRIVACY IS PROTECTED, THEIR DATA IS SAFE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, ONE OF THE KEY TENETS OF THIS IS WE PROTECT DATA, PATIENT DATA, VERY CAREFULLY.

>> Eric: AND YOU DO THAT OF COURSE ALREADY.

>> WE DO IT ALREADY AND WHAT YOU O IS YOU BUILD A.I.

MODELS, FOR MOST OF THEM, THEIR DATA IS NOT CONTAINED IN THAT.

IF WE DO BUILD GENERATIVE MODELS, THOSE EMBEDDING, SOME OF THAT CONTENT IS THERE BUT IT'S DE-IDENTIFIED AND WITH THAT, NONE OF THAT PATIENT-SPECIFIC INFORMATION WOULD EVER BE RELEASED AS PART OF THAT MODEL.

>> Cathy: IS THIS OPEN INFORMATION?

IF ANOTHER HOSPITAL SYSTEM, CAN THEY USE YOUR INFORMATION?

AND SHARE IT THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD PERHAPS?

>> SO WE ARE WORKING TO DO THAT IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

ONE WAY IS THROUGH MAYO CLINIC PLATFORM.

AND THAT IS A DATA NETWORK, IF YOU WILL.

AND THE WAY IT WORKS IS, EACH ORGANIZATION CAN CONTRIBUTE THEIR DATA, BUT THEIR DATA STAYS WITHIN THEIR ORGANIZATION.

AND YOU CAN STILL HAVE INSIGHTS FROM THAT.

THE OTHER WAY YOU CAN HINK ABOUT IT IS THIS FOUNDATION MODEL.

THE FOUNDATION MODEL CAN BE SHARED.

THE DATA ITSELF IS NOT BEING SHARED.

INSIGHTS FROM THE DATA ARE BEING SHARED.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOW DO WE UNLOCK THE INSIGHTS THAT CURRENTLY, AS IT RELATES TO PATHOLOGY ARE CONTAINED WITHIN GLASS SLIDES.

IT'S TOTALLY LOCKED UP.

YOU CAN'T USE A.I.

TO UNLOCK THE DATA AND THE INSIGHTS.

NOW YOU AN, AND THAT'S WHAT'S EXCITING TO US BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S ALMOST A ONCE IN A GENERATION OPPORTUNITY TO TRULY TRANSFORM HOW WE DO MEDICINE.

>> Eric: IN THE SCOPE OF ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS IN MEDICINE OVER HOW MANY YEARS, WHERE DOES THIS RANK AS FAR ASKER IMPORTANCE, REVOLUTIONARY ACTIVITY?

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?

>> WE THINK IT'S A PIVOTAL MOMENT REALLY FOR HEALTHCARE.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND WHERE WE'RE GOING, IT'S EXTRAORDINARILY MANUAL.

YOU TRY TO LEARN ABOUT PATIENTS.

OUR CLINICIANS ARE SYNTHESIZING PATIENTS IN THEIR HEAD TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN DO THE RIGHT THINGS.

THE GROWTH OF KNOWLEDGE IN MEDICINE IS EXPLODING.

AND THE CAPABILITIES ARE ALSO GOING ALONG WITH THAT, WITH NEW THERAPIES.

SO HOW DO YOU STAY AT THE EDGE IS THE CRITICAL THING.

WITH THIS, LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS, GENERATIVE MODELS, E CAN ACTUALLY GET HEIR FASTER IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING THAT PATIENT AND ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THE LITERATURE AS PART OF THAT, SO WE CAN ACTUALLY DELIVER THE BEST CARE FOR PATIENTS.

>> Eric: I THINK NVIDIA IS THE MOST PROFITABLE COMPANY ON EARTH.

HOW HAVE THEY BEEN TO WORK WITH?

>> THEY'VE BEEN GREAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

THEY'VE BEEN A WONDERFUL PARTNER TO WORK WITH.

WE WORK WITH MANY DIFFERENT PARTNERS, BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH NVIDIA, WE HAVE THE BLACK WELL CLUSTER NOW.

THIS IS REALLY NOW THEIR NEXT GENERATION OF COMPUTES.

THEY ALSO DO SERVICES AROUND THOSE CHIPS AND PRODUCTS AROUND THOSE CHIPS.

AND THE COMPUTE OW IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO GO VERY QUICKLY.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ADVANCE OVER THE PREVIOUS COMPUTE THAT WE HAD AVAILABLE TO US.

>> Eric: PEOPLE GOING TO LOSE JOBS AT MAYO?

>> WHAT IT IS DOING IS MAKING PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THEIR JOBS BETTER.

AND WHAT'S KEY ABOUT HOW WE'RE APPROACHING THIS AT MAYO IS PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED, ARE ALL ENABLED TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE BELIEVE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, IT REALLY JUST MAKES THOSE INDIVIDUALS BETTER AT THEIR ROLE.

>> Cathy: GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

IT'S INTERESTING.

>> WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

♪ ♪ >> SHELETTA: A RECENT SURVEY SHOWED THAT IT COST AROUND $15,000 TO HAVE A BABY IN MINNESOTA.

AND THAT’S IF YOU HAVE AN UNEVENTFUL DELIVERY.

ADD IN A SCALPEL, EXTRA PAIN MEDS, AND A C-SECTION, HONEY, THAT PRICE COULD JUMP UP ANOTHER TEN Gs.

GEE WIZ!

THOSE LITTLE CRUMB-SNATCHERS START SNATCHING CRUMBS THE MOMENT THEY’RE BORN.

IT’S EXPENSIVE BEING A PARENT!

WE DON’T EVER GET A BREAK.

AND AS KIDS GET OLDER, THEY KEEP BREAKING THE BANK.

CASE IN POINT: MY SON BRANDON RECENTLY TURNED 13.

AND Y'ALL KNOW ME.

I WANTED TO DO IT UP BIG FOR THIS BIG MILESTONE.

I INVITED 20 OF HIS CLOSEST FRIENDS TO THE HOUSE FOR A BACKYARD BIRTHDAY PARTY.

WE ATE RAISING CANE’S CHICKEN FINGERS UNTIL WE STARTED CLUCKING.

AND MIK-MART ICE CREAM UNTIL WE WERE GOOD AND FROSTY.

THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE COST ME A GRIP.

BUT IT WAS WORTH IT TO SEE THE SMILE ON MY FAVORITE CHILD’S FACE.

I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BUY ME SOME TIME BEFORE I HAD TO BUY HIM ANYTHING ELSE.

NOT!

JUST A FEW DAYS LATER, HE WAS BACK TO PICKING MY POCKETBOOK AGAIN.

SO SINCE AUGUST IS BLACK BUSINESS MONTH, I WENT SHOPPING AT THE DREAM SHOPPE A BLACK-OWNED, WOMAN-OWNED SHOP ON NORTH FREMONT AVENUE IN MINNEAPOLIS LOOKING FOR A HANDBAG THAT HAD A MESSAGE.

FOR MY KIDS.

I FOUND THE PERFECT PURSE.

YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

HONEY!

"THIS BAG CARRIES BOUNDARIES."

THOUGH I DON’T THINK MY SON BRANDON APPRECIATED THE SENTIMENT AS MUCH AS I DID.

>> AH, AH, AH!

THIS BAG CARRIES BOUNDARIES.

♪♪ >> ERIC: THE STATE IS PLANNING AN OUTSIDE ASSESSMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE AND SECURITY FOLLOWING THE ASSASSINATION OF A LAWMAKER AND BREAK-IN TO THE STATE CAPITOL.

THE GOVERNOR AND LEGISLATIVE LEADERS MET BEHIND CLOSED DOORS ON THE ISSUE THIS WEEK.

MARY LAHAMMER HAS THE SCOOP ON SECURITY LAPSES INSIDE THE HISTORIC PEOPLE'S HOUSE.

>> Mary: GETTING INTO THE CAPITOL DURING THE DAY IS SIMPLE.

WITH NO SECURITY CHECKPOINTS.

WE FOUND TWO GROUND FLOOR ENTRANCES BOARDED UP OR LOCKS ON DOORS HAD BEEN ACTING UP IN A DARK CORRIDOR.

POLICE REPORTS SAY AN INTRUDER WEDGED OPEN A DOOR SO HE COULD RETURN.

THE STONE STAIRS ARE ASY TO NAVIGATE UP EVENTUALLY TO THE SECOND FLOOR WHERE THE MAN WAS FOUND MAKED IN THE SENATE PRESIDENT'S CHAIR.

THE HISTORIC METAL ATE LOCKS, BUT IT DOESN'T APPEAR DIFFICULT TO CLIMB UP OVER THE TOP.

THE HOUSE, WHERE THE MEMORIAL FOR THE ASSASSINATED LEADER REMAINS, HAS THE SAME OPEN SPACE ABOVE THE SECURED GATE WITH AMPLE ACCESS TO SCALE IT TO THE FLOOR.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE SECURITY BREACH IN YOUR CHAMBER WHERE YOU WORK?

>> AFTER OMING OFF OF THE ATTACK ON JUNE 14TH, TO FIND OUT THEN THAT SOMEBODY HAS BREACHED HE SENATE CHAMBER AFTER HOURS, IT'S UNSETTLING.

>> Mary: ESPECIALLY UNSETTLING ON THE SHOOTER'S HIT LIST TWICE WITH HER HOME ADDRESS.

SO THAT GIVES ALL OF THESE ISSUES EXTRA RESONANCE FOR YOU.

>> YEAH OF YEAH, IT'S TERRIFYING.

ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES WERE SHOT AND IT WAS HOURS BEFORE MANY OF US WHO WERE TARGETED EVEN KNEW WHEN WE WERE IN DANGER.

>> Mary: HOW MANY?

>> I FOUND OUT SOMETIME AFTER 7:00, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, FAR TOO LATE.

>> Mary: THAT'S LIKE FIVE HOURS?

>> RIGHT, CORRECT.

>> Mary: THE RESPONSE OF SHOOTINGS TO LAWMAKERS AND THEIR FAMILIES FOLLOWED WEEKS LATER BY AN INTRUSION HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY ANNOUNCING OUTSIDE ASSESSMENTS OF THE ASSASSINATION AND CAPITOL SECURITY.

>> THE IMPACT HAVE HAD ON US AND EVERYONE WHO WORKED AT OUR VISITS THE STATE CAPITOL IS PROFOUND AND HAS UNDERSTANDABLY SHAKEN SOME PEOPLE'S SENSE OF SECURITY.

>> Mary: WHAT IS KEEPING YOU RIGHT NOW FROM GOING DOWN TO ONE ENTRANCE?

>> OUR PREFERENCE IS TO ORK WITH LEGISLATIVE PARNTS.

G>> Mary: THE SENATOR FROM A SWING DISTRICT HAS ASKED FOR A AUDIT ON SECURITY AS WELL.

>> A COORDINATED RESPONSE SHOULD SEEM AS IF IT WAS ALREADY THERE.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SURPRISED THAT WE DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN PLACE.

>> Mary: WE AGUIRREED A SUPPORT.

IT SAID CAPITOL SECURITY SHOULD DEVELOP A MORE DETAILED RESPONSE AND WRITTEN PLAN.

IT ALSO NOTES THE CAPITOL DID NOT HAVE WEAPON SCREENINGS AND STILL DOESN'T, 15 YEARS LATER.

>> OF COURSE IT'S OVERDUE.

I MEAN, I THINK ANOTHER THICK THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD BE SORT OF SURPRISED BY IS THAT WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW STATES THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY MASSIVE SECURITY PROTOCOLS WHEN YOU COME IN, RIGHT?

SO NO METAL DETECTORS.

WE DON'T HAVE BAG CHECKS.

>> ALL RIGHT, WE GOT IT.

HERE WE GO.

>> Mary: GOVERNOR WALZ WAS HOPING TO ENJOY A FARM VISIT FOR A CEREMONIAL SIGNING OF THE AG BILL, BUT INSTEAD, HE HAD TO ANSWER HARD QUESTIONS ABOUT ONGOING SECURITY SITUATIONS IN THE STATE.

>> THIS IS A SERIOUS SITUATION, AND IT'S DANGEROUS.

AND I THINK THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING AFTER THE TRAGEDY OF THE MURDER OF MELISSA AND MARK AND OF COURSE THE ALMOST TRAGEDY WITH JOHN AND YVETTE >> Mary: THE GOVERNOR SAYS AN INTRUDER DIDN'T SET OFF AN ALARM AS E APPARENTLY WENT INTO A BATHROOM, DISROBED AND CLAIMED HE WAS THE GOVERNOR.

>> THE HOUSE AND SENATE HAVE CONTROL OF THEIR CHAMBERS AND I'M NOT TRYING TO ADVERTISE THIS.

BUT THERE WERE NO CAMERAS IN THAT ROOM.

>> Mary: ALL THE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT WILL HAVE TO COME TOGETHER TO FIND SOLUTIONS AS THE NEW OUTSIDE SECURITY REVIEW BEGINS.

>> THIS IS AN UNPRECEDENTED EVENT THAT OCCURRED.

THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN THE COUNTRY THAT WE ARE AWARE OF.

A SIMILAR EVENT.

SO THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS EXTREMELY UNUSUAL.

TRAUMATIC AND VIOLENT.

>> ANY EYES ON THIS THAT CAN PROVIDE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY TO WHAT ENT WRONG, WHAT WE CAN DO GOING FORWARD, HOW WE CAN LEAD THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE WOULD BE GREAT.

AS YOU KNOW OR MAYBE DON'T KNOW, I ALSO REQUESTED AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION THROUGH THE O.L.A.

AND I THINK BOTH OF THOSE ARE NEEDED.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN HAVE ENOUGH TRANSPARENCY ON THIS ISSUE.

AND IT ISN'T ABOUT PLACING BLAME.

IT'S ABOUT FINDING ANSWERS SO THAT WE CAN PREVENT THIS IN THE FUTURE AND HAVE A REAL SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT WOULD PROTECT PEOPLE.

>> WE CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO HURT FOR THE HORTMAN FAMILY AND FOR THE HOFFMANS, FOR WHAT THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH.

WE AS THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, LAW ENFORCEMENT IN GENERAL, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO OUR VERY BEST.

WE ARE GOING TO LEARN FROM THIS.

AND IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE AN DO BETTER, I CAN TELL YOU, WITH WHEN THEY TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER, WHERE THOSE GAPS ARE, HOW WE CAN IMPROVE, WE WILL TAKE THOSE AND WE WILL DO THAT.

>> Mary: HOW ARE YOU HANDLING JUST THIS ONSLAUGHT OF HORRIFIC NEWS?

>> YEAH, I'M VERY HONORED TO HAVE THIS JOB AND I CONTINUE TO DO MY JOB.

BUT I WOULD BE LYING TO SAY IT DOESN'T CHANGE YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

THERE'S NERVOUSNESS.

THERE'S ANXIETY.

♪♪ >> ERIC: IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE HORRIFIC JUNE POLITICAL SHOOTINGS THAT LEFT SPEAKER EMERITA MELISSA HORTMAN AND HUSBAND MARK DEAD AND INJURED SENATOR JOHN HOFFMAN AND WIFE YVETTE, MANY MINNESOTANS FOUND THEMSELVES WONDERING WHAT CAN BE DONE TO TONE DOWN THE VIOLENT RHETORIC THAT HAS BECOME A PART OF POLITICS IN AMERICA.

ENTER A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO DO THIS KIND OF WORK REGULARLY, AND YOU END UP WITH AN INITIATIVE CALLED "WHAT CAN WE DO WEEKS."

IT'S THE BRAINCHILD OF SHANNON WATSON, WHO HEADS UP "MAJORITY IN THE MIDDLE," A GROUP WHOSE MISSION IS TO BRING PEOPLE FROM OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM TOGETHER.

ASSISTING HER WITH THIS EFFORT IS NATHAN STOCK, AN EXPERT ON CONFLICT RESOLUTION AND POLITICAL VIOLENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

JOINING THEM TONIGHT IS LIBBY STEGGER, WHO RUNS CIVIC BRIDGERS, ONE OF THE PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS EFFORT.

WELCOME, ONE AND ALL.

YOU HAD THE KICKOFF YESTERDAY, SHANNON.

TELL US ABOUT THAT AND TELL US ABOUT THE LONG-RANGE GOAL HERE.

>> SO THE ONGS-RANGE GOAL IS GIVE PEOPLE SOMETHING TO DO.

LIKE YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME I WAS HEAR, WHAT CAN PEOPLE DO?

AND THIS IS THE ANSWER.

THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO, NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH THE FUNERALS.

JOHN AND YVETTE ARE ON THE MEND.

THIS IS THINGS THAT PEOPLE CAN DO AND THIS IS GIVING SPACE AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET ENGAGED.

>> Cathy: SO YOU HAD THE KICKOFF.

>> YES.

>> Cathy: AT THE HUMANITIES CENTER.

>> YES.

>> Cathy: PEOPLE WERE ASKED TO DO SOMETHING SPECIFIC.

WHAT WAS THAT?

>> YES, WE ASKED PEOPLE TO SIGN THE CIVIC PLEDGE FOR A STRONGER MINNESOTA, WHICH THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE VERY EASY FOR EVERYBODY IN MINNESOTA TO AGREE ON.

NATHAN'S GOT SOME BACKGROUND IN THIS, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE PEOPLE KIND OF FIND THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S EASY THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO AGREE ON.

>> Eric: HOW TOUGH IS IT TO UNWIND WHAT IS APPARENTLY A NEW CULTURE IN POLITICS WITH THE TOUGH LANGUAGE AND WORSE?

>> WELL, WE'VE BEEN IN A POLITICAL AND MEDIA ENVIRONMENT FOR YEARS NOW THAT REWARDS BAD BEHAVIOR.

RIGHT?

OUTRAGE.

DEMONIZATION GETS CLICKS AND SOMETIMES VOTES.

SIGNING THIS PLEDGE AND THE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT SHANNON'S ORGANIZING IS A START TOWARD BUILDING A CIVIC COALITION HAT CAN DEMAND SOMETHING BETTER.

WE NEED TO CHANGE THE INCENTIVES, RIGHT?

AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT 85% OF AMERICANS REJECT POLITICAL VIOLENCE.

THE REAGAN FOUNDATION OUT IN CALIFORNIA PUT OUT A SURVEY BACK IN THE SPRING THAT SAID THAT 72% OF OUR FELLOW AMERICANS WANT TO BE PART OF RESTORING CIVILITY.

83% EXPECT THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO GET ALONG, TO COOPERATE ACROSS POLITICAL LINES.

THE TASK IN FRONT OF US THEN IS TO LIFT UP OUR VOICES, TO MAKE IT KNOWN THAT WE DON'T WANT TO LIVE LIKE THIS, THAT MOST AMERICANS WANT A BETTER STANDARD OF CIVIC BEHAVIOR, AND THIS LEDGE IS A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION.

>> Cathy: LIBBY, SO, YES, MOST PEOPLE WOULD WANT THEIR LAWMAKERS TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER, BUT, LIBBY, POLITICIANS DON'T SEEM TO BE GETTING THAT MESSAGE.

>> SOMETIMES NOT.

SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO KNOW IN THE FACE OF SUCH A HUGE CHALLENGE HOW WE AS INDIVIDUALS CAN EFFECT CHANGE, HOW CAN WE PART OF IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO AT CIVIC BRIDGERS IS WE HELP YOUNG PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR BUILD THE SKILLS AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO AT THE LOCAL LEVEL TO HELP REBUILD THAT CIVILITY.

AND SOMETIMES IT'S IN POLITICS AND SYSTEMS.

AND SOMETIMES IT IS IN HOW WE TREAT OUR NEIGHBORS, HOW WE SHOW UP IN SPACES AND HOW WE PUT THE IDEA OF PLURALISM AT THE CENTER.

THAT CAN BE OUR COMMON GROUND.

AND AS NATHAN SHOWS THROUGH ALL OF THESE IMPORTANT STATISTICS, PEOPLE DO WANT TO COME TOGETHER ACROSS DIFFERENCES.

WE NEED THE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE NEED TO UT THAT AT THE CENTER.

>> Eric: HOW DO YOU AVOID JUST PREACHING TO THE CHOIR?

>> I THINK THE VOTERS HAVE PLACE IN THIS.

LETTING THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS, LETTING THEIR LEADERS AND WHOEVER THAT IS, THAT'S IN ACADEMIA, THAT'S IN FAITH GROUPS, WHATEVER, HAVING NORMAL PEOPLE SAY, YEP, THIS IS WHAT I EXPECT, AND THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO SIGN ONTO AND THIS IS WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO.

AND AGAIN, LIKE, INCENTIVIZING GOOD BEHAVIOR INSTEAD OF INCENTIVIZING THE DIVISION.

>> Cathy: I REMEMBER, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS EFFORT WITH ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, AND THIS PERSON SAID, IF YOU TONE DOWN THE RHETORIC, DON'T YOU INFRINGE ON FIRST AMENDMENT SPEECH RIGHTS?

AND I SAID, WELL, I'LL ASK MY FRIENDS HERE ON THE PANEL.

I MEAN, WHAT OF THAT, PERHAPS?

>> WELL, IN THIS COUNTRY, WE HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, ESSENTIALLY THAT SHOULDN'T CHANGE.

BUT IT'S ALSO CLEAR THAT WHEN ELITES, POLITICAL LEADERS, DEMONIZE GROUPS F PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR POLITICS, THEIR IDENTITY, THEIR RELIGION, THEIR SKIN COLOR, THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE DOES EAD TO REAL-WORLD VIOLENCE.

WE HAVE MANAGED OUR DEMOCRACY JUST FINE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS WITHOUT ENGAGING IN THAT KIND OF CONDUCT, AND WE HAD A MUCH MORE PEACEFUL SOCIETY.

SO WE'RE NOT EXPECTING THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO MAGICALLY GET ALONG, RIGHT?

THAT WOULD BE BORING.

WE'RE GOING TO DEBATE BUT WE CAN DO THAT WITHIN CERTAINLY REASONABLE GUARD RAILS.

>> Eric: DO YOU EXPECT THE LEADERS OF THE LEGISLATURE AND WHO KNOWS WHO THEY'LL BE IN THE 2026 SESSION, BUT I THINK TALK TO SOME OF THOSE FOLKS AND OPERATIVES AND SO FORTH, DO YOU EXPECT THERE TO BE LEEK A CAUCUS MEETING WHERE THAT ISSUE COMES UP AND THEY'LL SAY TONE IT DOWN.

THE LEADERS WILL TELL THE RANK AND FILE, TONE IT DOWN ON THE FLOOR DURING DEBATE FOR INSTANCE OR IS IT GOING TO BE THAT FAR-REACHING?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I HOPE SO.

I KNOW THIS IS ALREADY A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION NOW AMONGST LEADERS.

LIKE, WHAT DO WE DO?

HOW MUCH DO WE SAY.

HOW MUCH DO WE USE EMOTION IN TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE?

SO I THINK THE -- THE VIOLENCE ON THE 14TH JUST REALLY DEMONSTRATED HOW BADLY THIS CAN GO.

AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO GO THERE AGAIN.

AND SO JUST IT BEING SO PERSONAL, I THINK THEY'LL HAVE EXTRA INCENTIVE TO TRY TO TONE IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

>> Eric: THE SUSPECT JUST HAD AN OLD-FASHIONED LEGAL PAD FOR HIS MANIFESTO, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

BUT SEEMS TO ME, SOCIAL MEDIA MAY HAVE A BROADER IMPACT ON THIS KIND OF THING.

>> WE CERTAINLY SEE THAT SOCIAL MEDIA CAN PLAY A ROLE AND AS CAN MEDIA.

WE ALL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY.

WE ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW WE SHOW UP, AND WHETHER IT'S IN SOCIAL MEDIA SPACES, WHETHER IT'S IN OUR NEIGHBORS, WHETHER IT'S IN CAUCUS ROOMS, EACH OF US HAS A ROLE TO PLAY AND MAKE SURE WE ARE STEPPING INTO THAT.

SO WE ACTUALLY TRAIN ON THAT.

WE TRAIN HOW TO ENGAGE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.

HOW DO YOU WANT TO SHOW UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN WAYS THAT BRIDGE DIVIDES.

>> Cathy: SO YOU'RE MORE OF A GRASS-ROOTS EFFORT?

>> THAT'S RIGHT AND THAT'S WHAT SHANNON'S BEEN ABLE O DO IS CREATE THIS COALITION OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF ORGANIZATIONS -- >> Cathy: WHICH IS TERRIFIC, BUT I'M WONDERING, AS A MEMBER OF THE MEDIA, YOU TALKED ABOUT REWARDING BAD BEHAVIOR, AND OBVIOUSLY THE MEDIA HAS DONE THAT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, RIGHT?

SO WHAT'S THE ROLE OF THE MASS MEDIA IN THIS?

>> IN FAIRNESS, JOURNALISM NEEDS CONFLICT FOR A GOOD STORY.

AND I THINK HIGHLIGHTING WHERE PEOPLE ARE WORKING TOGETHER AND THE CONFLICTS THEY ACE WHILE TRYING TO DEFEAT A PROBLEM, NOT NECESSARILY DEFEAT EACH OTHER, THAT CAN BE THE GOOD CONFLICT IN THE STORY?

>> LIBBY?

>> YEAH, I AGREE, SHANNON.

WE NEED MEDIA IN THIS.

AND IT IS OKAY TO ENGAGE IN CONFLICT.

IT IS NOT OKAY TO DEHUMANIZE.

AND SO I DON'T SEE YOU ALL DOING THAT.

I SEE YOU ALL HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND WE NEED YOUNG PEOPLE AND ADULTS TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO ENGAGE WITH MEDIA AND HOW TO HEAR WHAT THEY ARE HEARING AND UNDERSTAND, IS THIS INFLAMING OR IS THIS SOMETHING I CAN BE A PART OF?

>> AND ONE OTHER CHANGE THAT THE MEDIA HAS STARTED TO MAKE IN RECENT YEARS IS BEING MORE SENSITIVE IN HOW THEY REPORT ON THESE ISSUES.

DON'T READ THE MANIFESTO.

DON'T SAY THE NAME OF THE SHOOTER.

CENTER THE VICTIMS.

REMIND YOUR AUDIENCE WHO IS REALLY HARMED BY THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR.

AND I THINK THAT HAS GOTTEN BETTER.

>> Eric: DO PEOPLE IN THE POLITICAL PUBLIC POLICY WORLD HAVE TO SELF-CENSOR?

IS THAT WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WE ALL HAVE TO SELF-CENSOR.

THE -- WHAT WAS IT CALLED?

IN LIKE THE 1960s WHERE WE HAD THE SUBLIMINAL MESSAGING IN ADVERTISING?

LIKE, THAT WAS SUPER EFFECTIVE.

>> Eric: THEY PUT COKE UP ON THE MOVIE SCREEN FOR A SECOND.

>> AND SO YOUR BRAIN WOULD RECOGNIZE IT, BUT YOU WOULDN'T, LIKE, NATURALLY KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING BUT YOU WOULD WANT A COKE.

LIKE, WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THAT IS PSYCHOLOGICALLY HARMFUL, SO WE DON'T DO THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S EFFECTIVE.

THAT'S THE SAME THING WE NEED TO DO IN POLITICS.

EVEN THOUGH THOSE THINGS ARE EFFECTIVE, WE NEED TO NOT DO THAT TO SORT OF FOR THE GRAIRT GOOD.

>> Cathy: IS THERE A WEBSITE THAT VIEWERS CAN CHECK OUT?

>> THERE IS.

WHATWECANDOWEEK.ORG.

>> Eric: THANKS FOR COMING OVER, GUYS.

>> Cathy: GOOD LUCK.

THANK YOU FOR THE EFFORTS.

♪♪ >> WILL YOU LOOK AT MY SWING?

I'M LEFT-HANDED.

YEAH, DON'T LET ME HIT YOU.

OKAY, I'M LEFT-HANDED.

I'M WORKING ON A NEW GRIP.

>> BASEBALL GRIP.

>> Eric: NO, NOT QUITE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> Eric: NOW, WHAT DID YOU THINK?

>> IT WENT STRAIGHT.

>> Eric: OKAY.

>> THAT WAS GOOD.

>> Eric: WHAT CAN I DO TO GET A LITTLE MORE OOMPH INTO IT?

>> A LITTLE MORE SHOULDER TURN.

YOU GOT TO PRACTICE ON YOUR FLEXIBILITY THERE.

>> CATHY: I REMEMBER THAT NIGHT.

ACTUALLY, WE HAD A GOOD TIME.

WE DON'T PLAY GOLF IN THE STUDIO NEARLY AS OFTEN AS WE SHOULD.

THE END OF THE HOUR IS NEAR, SO IT'S TIME FOR THE MINNESOTA HISTORY PORTION OF THE SHOW.

LAST WEEK WAS ONE OF OUR PATENTED MYSTERY MINNESOTANS.

ERIC PRETENDED TO BE THE PERSON IN QUESTION, SO I GUESS I WILL TOO: "I WAS BORN IN OCTOBER OF 1979 IN EAST GERMANY.

MY FAMILY MOVED TO ST. PAUL IN THE EARLY 1990S, AND I GRADUATED FROM ST. PAUL CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL IN 1997.

I AM NOT A HOUSEHOLD NAME IN MINNESOTA OR ANYWHERE AROUND THE WORLD, BUT THE 'PRODUCT' I HELPED CO-FOUND IN 2005 IS NOW WORLD-RENOWNED.

I WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS 'PRODUCT' THAT IS NOW DONE MILLIONS OF TIMES DAILY.

WHO AM I?"

WE DIDN'T FOOL MANY OF YOU WITH THIS ONE.

IN FACT, JUST ONE UNIDENTIFIED VIEWER CALLED IN WITH A WRONG ANSWER.

TAKE IT AWAY, ANONYMOUS.

>> Cathy: NO.

NEARLY A DOZEN OF YOU GOT THIS ONE RIGHT, INCLUDING CENTRAL HIGH ALUM TRACY.

>> Cathy: FOR THE RECORD, MORE THAN ONE CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL ALUM CALLED IN WITH THE RIGHT ANSWER.

THERE'S KARIM AROUND THE TIME YOUTUBE WAS CREATED.

KARIM UPLOADED THE VERY FIRST VIDEO TO YOUTUBE ON APRIL 24, 2005.

WOW!

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WE HAVE JUST ENOUGH TIME FOR SOME SHOW-ENDING MUSIC FROM THE ARCHIVES.

THIS WEEK BACK IN 1998, IRISH BRIGADE PLAYED FOR US HERE IN STUDIO "B."

TAKE A LISTEN.

WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

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