>> Mary: WE'LL PREVIEW A JUNETEENTH VENT, AND HAVE AN ESSAY FROM TANE DANGER LATER IN THE SHOW, BUT WE START THE SHOW WITH NATIONAL POLITICS.

THURSDAY, GOVERNOR WALZ TESTIFIED BEFORE A HOUSE HEARING ALONGSIDE TWO OTHER DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS.

REPUBLICAN HOUSE MEMBERS CHALLENGED THE GOVERNORS' IMMIGRATION POLICIES IN A SOMETIMES HEATED HEARING.

AND IN BIG INTERNATIONAL NEWS, TRUMP FINDS HIMSELF AT THE CENTER OF CONFLICT BETWEEN ISRAEL AND IRAN.

JOINING US NOW, ANGELA GREILING KEANE, NEWS DIRECTOR WITH BLOOMBERG GOVERNMENT.

ANGELA, ANOTHER BUSY TRAVEL WEEKEND FOR THE MINNESOTA GOVERNOR.

HE WENT COAST TO COAST LAST WEEKEND, A SPEAKER IN D.C. TODAY, BUT REALLY THE MAIN EVENT I THINK WAS THE CONGRESSIONAL HEARING.

WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THAT YESTERDAY?

>> YES, IT REALLY WAS A SPECTACLE AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I THINK THE OTHER TWO GOVERNORS EXPECTED IT TO BE.

THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE WALKING INTO THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE UNDER REPUBLICAN CONTROL, IS A PLACE WHERE THEY ARE LOOKING TO SCORE POINTS.

THESE GOVERNORS KNEW THAT THEY HAD A CHANCE TO BE ON THE NATIONAL STAGE, AND THAT THEY DID.

BUT HEY DID NOT MAKE ANY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE DURING THAT HEARING WHERE THEY WERE OSTENSIBLY TALKING ABOUT SANCTUARY STATES ISN'T EVEN A TECHNICAL DEFINITION.

BUT THEY VEERED OFF INTO BIDEN'S AGE, AND TRANSGENDER BATHROOM ACCESS AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS OF VARIOUS NATURES.

SO THEY -- THEY DID FINE ON THE STAGE.

BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY A SPECK TECHCAL.

>> Cathy: IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE HOUSE WHILE TOM EMMER, MINNESOTA MEMBER TOM EMMER LIGHT INTO GOVERNOR WALZ.

THERE'S A FROSTY RELATIONSHIP THERE.

DID YOU NOTICE THAT?

AND WHAT DID YOU THINK?

>> ABSOLUTELY, AND HE PREVIEWED THAT.

CONGRESSMAN EMMER PUT OUT A SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEO WHERE HE MADE NO BONES WHERE HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE WELCOMING THE GOVERNOR OF HIS OWN STATE WITH OPEN ARMS.

A COUPLE OTHER REPUBLICAN MEMBERS FROM THE MINNESOTA DELEGATION ALSO APPEARED BEFORE THE COMMITTEE.

THEY WERE INVITED TO DO SO, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT MEMBERS OF THE JOAR SIGHT COMMITTEE, BUT ALSO A COUPLE DEMOCRATS CAME AS WELL.

SO BOTH FRIENDS AND FOES OF THE GOVERNOR HAD A CHANCE TO BE ON CAMERA, SAY THEIR WORDS, AND CERTAIN WAYS, ASK THEIR QUESTIONS.

>> Mary: AND WE WANT TO LET VIEWERS KNOW THEY'LL SEE SOME CLIPS IN A SECOND.

LAST WEEK, WE HEARD A LOT OF NATIONAL NEWS ANALYSTS SAYING, TIM WALZ IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.

A WEEK AGO, HIS HEADLINES WERE, DEMOCRATS NEED TO BE MEANER.

BUT DID WE SEE KIND OF MINNESOTA NICE?

HE TRIED TO REMIND EMMER, WE WERE IN CONGRESS TOGETHER.

WHEN WE GOT ALONG.

I MEAN, HOW DID THAT MEAN, SLASH, NICE WALZ PLAY YOU THINK?

>> YEAH, I THINK HE DID SAY THAT MINNESOTA IS COOPERATING WHEN IT IS LEGAL TO DO SO.

WITH IMMIGRATION LAWS NATIONALLY.

SO HE CERTAINLY MADE THAT POINT.

AND I THINK HAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING TO THE MORE MODERATE VOTER.

WE CERTAINLY KNOW THAT ILLINOIS GOVERNOR PRITZKER IS INTERESTED IN AT LEAST TESTING THE WATERS FOR RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT NEXT TIME.

GOVERNOR HOCHUL IS RUNNING FOR REELECTION IN NEW YORK, SO ALL OF THOSE GOVERNORS WERE ON A STAGE, LOOKING TO SPEAK BEYOND THEIR OWN CONSTITUENCIES.

IT'S PROBABLY TOO EARLY TO KNOW IF GOVERNOR WALZ IS INTERESTED IN HEADING BACK TO THE NATIONAL STAGE AND -- IN FOUR YEARS OR THREE YEARS OR BEYOND.

BUT HE -- WOULD HAVE BEEN UNLIKELY TO HAVE ACCEPTED THAT INVITATION -- >> Mary: RIGHT, AND WHAT ABOUT COMPARATIVELY, TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT UESTION, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD A LOT OF ANALYSTS SAY THAT HE WAS THE LEAST AGGRESSIVE OF THE THREE.

ARE YOU HEARING ANYTHING ON THAT?

>> GOVERNOR HOCHUL REPRESENTS RS NEW YORK AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO SUCCEED IN NEW YORK POLITICS AND HONESTLY MANY NEW YORKERS WOULD SAY SHE'S NOT SUCCEEDING IN NEW YORK POLITICS.

AND NEW YORKERS ARE PRETTY DIFFERENT THAN MINNESOTANS.

SO I WOULD SAY -- >> Mary: YOU KNOW A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, DON'T YOU?

>> ATTRIBUTABLE TO GEOGRAPHY AND THE PEOPLE THAT THEY REPRESENT.

GOVERNOR WALZ IS KNOWN FOR BEING, EVEN THOUGH HE'S ORIGINALLY NOT FROM MINNESOTA, HE'S LIVED THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND HE'S KNOWN FOR KIND OF HEWING TO THE MINNESOTA STEREOTYPE NICE, POLITE, AW SHUCKS PERSONALITY AND I THINK WE DID SEE SOME OF THAT.

ALTHOUGH HE CERTAINLY STOOD UP TO THE CRITICS WITHOUT GETTING FLUSTERED AND SOME OF THE RECAPS I READ TODAY LOOKING AT HOW EOPLE DID, MENTIONED THAT HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T BOW TO REPUBLICANS WHO WERE COMING AT HIM FROM ALL SIDES AT SOME POINTS.

>> Cathy: THE HEARING WAS HELD AGAINST THE BACKDROP OF THE PROTESTS IN LOUISIANA AND THERE WAS THE -- IN L.A., AND THE "WASHINGTON POST" POLL.

ARE WE STARTING TO SEE SOME CRACKS PERHAPS WHEN IT COMES TO THE ADMINISTRATION'S IMMIGRATION POLICIES?

>> WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT THE ADMINISTRATION SCORED A LOT OF POINTS YESTERDAY FOR LITERALLY TACKLING SENATOR ALEX PADILLA FROM CALIFORNIA WHILE HOMELAND SECRETARY KRISTI NOEM WAS SPEAKING.

HE WOULD HAVE SAID HE DIDN'T HAVE ANOTHER OUTLET TO TALK.

BUT EVEN IF SOMEONE'S INTERRUPTING A SPEECH, YOU DO NOT NORMALLY SEE A U.S.

SENATOR TAKEN TO THE GROUND BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO THAT WAS CERTAINLY AN ON CAMERA MOMENT THAT RESONATES WITH PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

NOT JUST IN CALIFORNIA, THAT HAPPENED JUST YESTERDAY, AND WE NOW FROM MARINES ON THE GROUND AS WELL AS THE NATIONAL SO MORE PEOPLE I THINK ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT ASPECT.

IT'S NOT BEEN DONE FOR DECADES TO HAVE THE NATIONAL GUARD CALLED IN BY THE PRESIDENT TO A PLACE WHERE THEY WEREN'T INVITED BY THE GOVERNOR.

SO THOSE SORTS OF THINGS ARE CERTAINLY BEGINNING UP MORE OPPOSITION.

TOMORROW IN WASHINGTON, D.C., WE HAVE THE MILITARY PARADE THAT'S ALSO ON TREASURE TRUMP'S BIRTHDAY AND THERE WILL BE PROTESTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AGAINST THAT AS WELL.

SO THOSE PROTESTS MAY KIND OF MELD INTO THE PROTESTS THAT ARE ALREADY HAPPENING WITH IMMIGRATION CONCERNS.