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>> ERIC: STARTING NEXT WEEK EVERY MINNESOTAN 16 AND OLDER IS ELIGIBLE FOR A COVID VACCINE.

WE'LL LEARN HOW THAT WILL WORK.

OPENING STATEMENTS START IN THE DEREK CHAUVIN TRIAL MONDAY.

WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT TO EXPECT.

AND WE'LL VISIT WITH ANOTHER NORTHERN MINNESOTA PHOTOGRAPHER.

THEN MARY LAHAMMER WILL TAP INTO THE DEBATE AT THE CAPITOL ABOUT VOTING RIGHTS.

>> Mary: CHANGES TO HOW YOU VOTE COULD BE COME UNDER BILLS THAT EXPAND AND LIMIT ACCESS TO THE POLLS IN MINNESOTA.

>> THERE IS ONGOING CONCERNS ABOUT VOTER INTEGRITY.

>> TELLING LIES ABOUT OUR ELECTIONS HAD DEADLY CONSEQUENCES.

>> Mary: THAT'S COMING UP ON "ALMANAC."

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>> ERIC: THANKS FOR JOINING US.

IN THE NEXT HOUR WE'LL TALK ABOUT VOTING RIGHTS AND THE ECONOMIC POWER OF IMMIGRATION.

WE'LL HAVE A DAVID GILLETTE ESSAY AS WELL.

>> CATHY: BUT WE START WITH THE BIG NEWS THAT MINNESOTA IS JOINING OTHER STATES IN OFFERING COVID VACCINES TO ALL ADULTS.

THE NEWS COMES AT A TIME WHEN CASES OF COVID ARE RISING.

MINNESOTA IS ONE OF A NUMBER OF STATES IN THE MIDWEST THAT HAS SEEN A DOUBLE-DIGIT HIKE IN CASES IN THE PAST WEEK.

HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE STATE'S NEW VACCINATION STRATEGY AND HOW IT PLANS TO REACH ALL MINNESOTANS.

STATE HEALTH COMMISSIONER JAN MALCOLM JOINS US.

HERE TOO IS DR. NATHAN CHOMILO, NAMED EARLIER THIS MONTH TO HEAD A VACCINE EQUITY TEAM AT THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

GOOD TO SEE BODIES OF YOU.

THANKS.

WELCOME TO "ALMANAC."

COMMISSIONER, THIS IS BIG NEWS.

OPENING UP TO 16 -- ALL MINNESOTANS AGES 16 PLUS STARTING NEXT TUESDAY.

THAT'S A HUGE COHORT OF INDIVIDUALS, OBVIOUSLY.

WHY NOT -- WHY START THERE?

WHY NOT 30 PLUS OR 40 PLUS?

>> WELL, THIS IS GOOD NEWS FOR MINNESOTANS.

WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO IS JUST CREATE, I THINK, A SIMPLER PROCESS FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE IN LINE STARTING NEXT WEEK.

WE ARE STILL GOING TO BE PRIORITIZING PEOPLE AT HIGHER RISK TO BE AT THE FRONT OF THAT LINE, IF YOU WILL.

BUT WE MADE GREAT PROGRESS, WE'VE GOT 80% OF ALL PEOPLE OVER 65 VACCINATED ALREADY, AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING.

SO THIS IS JUST GIVING MORE FLEXIBILITY TO PROVIDERS TO BE ABLE TO MOVE MORE QUICKLY TO VACCINATE MORE PEOPLE.

>> Eric: DOCTOR, YOU'VE POINTED OUT THAT WHITES ARE GETTING THE VACCINE AT MULTIPLE TIMES MORE THAN THE VARIOUS MINORITY GROUPS AND LOW-INCOME PEOPLE.

WHAT ARE SOME IDEAS TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH EQUITY HERE?

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

SO, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO TO CONTINUE TO OPERATIONALIZE EQUITY, EVEN OPENING ELIGIBILITY.

WE KNOW JUST FROM EVEN PRE-COVID, HAVING AN INSURANCE CARD DOESN'T GUARANTEE THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO CARE AT THE SAME RATE, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

AND, SO, WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO BOTH START WITH HOW WE ARE MEASURING SUCCESS, LOOKING AT HOW WE ARE OPERATIONALIZING EQUITY THROUGH A LENS OF HOW WE ALLOCATE OUT OUR DOSES AND MEASURING THAT, HAVING METRICS TO GO ALONGSIDE OUR METRICS OF SPEED AND GETTING SHOTS INTO ARMS, TO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT LEAVING FOLKS BEHIND.

CONTINUE TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS TO USE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN BUILT UP TO DELIVER SHOTS, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH VACCINATION, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH WHACK-UP CLINICS, WHETHER THAT'S UP POP-UP CLINICS, COORDINATING WITH OUR MANY PARTNERS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HITTING THE AREAS OF HIGHEST NEED.

WALK-UP CLINICS.

>> Cathy: IS THERE A PROBLEM HERE, DOCTOR, WITH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC, RACIAL DATA, THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS ASKED ABOUT RACE, AND I'M WONDERING HERE, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT MEASURING SUCCESS, ARE WE A BIT BEHIND WHEN IT COMES TO RACIAL DATA?

DO WE NEED TO MAYBE BEEF THAT UP?

>> WELL, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, MINNESOTA, THAT'S ONE OF THE PLACES THAT WE'VE HAD A REALLY KIND OF GROUNDBREAKING PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD CONSORTIUM, WHICH IS ALL OF OUR LARGE SYSTEMS PROVIDING DATA TO HELP FILL IN THAT GAP.

AND, SO, FOR THE LAST THREE WEEKS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE RACIAL AND ETHNICITY DATA APPROXIMATION.

AND, SO, THAT'S AN AREA THAT WE NOW HAVE THE DATA BUT WE NOW HAVE TO ACT ON IT, KIND BOTH EVALUATE HOW EFFECTIVE THE INTERVENTION LAID OUT.

SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THINGS LIKE HEALTH CENTERS, DEALING WITH HEALTH CLINICS, DEALING WITH CHAIN INDEPENDENT PHARMACIES, WE NEED TO TAKE THE DATA BACK, IS THIS DATA EFFECTIVE, WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT, AND USE IT TO GUIDE GOING FORWARD.

I THINK JUST COLLECTING THE DATA WAS A HURDLE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT NOW THOSE INFORM US AND WE HAVE TO OPERATIONALIZE THAT.

>> Eric: HEY, COMMISSIONER, ARE YOU SETTING UP SOME KIND OF INTERGENERATIONAL COMPETITION WITH THE 16 AND OLDER, AT LEAST IN THE SHORT TERM?

>> WELL, AGAIN, JUST REALLY NEED FOR FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE STILL ARE GOING TO BE SETTING UP PRIORITIES AND MAKING SURE, AND OUR DOCTORS, CLINICS, HOSPITALS, PHARMACISTS ARE GOING TO BE REACHING OUT PROACTIVELY TO THEIR HIGHER-RISK PATIENTS TO GET THEM VACCINATED AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO THE 16-YEAR-OLD IS NOT GOING TO BE THE FIRST ONE VACCINATED, JUST SAYING EVERYBODY'S ELIGIBLE NEXT WEEK DOES NOT MEAN WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE VACCINE RIGHT AWAY.

THE VACCINE IS STILL -- STILL COMES TO US IN WEEKLY ALLOTMENTS.

THAT'S GROWING, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

BUT THERE STILL IS GOING TO BE A NEED FOR SOME PATIENCE HERE.

>> Cathy: THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE AFTER CHECKING MY SOCIAL MEDIA FEED TODAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS LAND RUSH OF INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO FIND PLACES TO GET VACCINES.

IS THERE ENOUGH VACCINE AT THIS POINT?

>> WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, I THINK, WHEN THE PRESIDENT SET HIS GOAL AND SAID, ALL ADULTS ARE GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE BY MAY 1st, AND BECAUSE WE'VE MADE SUCH GOOD PROGRESS, AGAIN, WITH SOME OF OUR HIGHEST-RISK POPULATIONS, WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE MORE QUICKLY.

AND THIS GIVES AN IMPORTANT FLEXIBILITY TO PROVIDERS.

JUST HERE'S A REALLY PRACTICAL EXAMPLE.

MANY PROVIDERS HAVE HAD HIGHER-RISK PATIENTS COMING IN AND A FAMILY MEMBER BROUGHT THEM IN BUT THE PROVIDER COULD ONLY VACCINATE ONE PERSON, NOT BOTH.

SO THIS GIVES THEM THE FLEXIBILITY TO BE A LITTLE MORE NIMBLE THAT WAY.

BUT, YES, WE ARE GOING TO BE SEEING INCREASED VACCINE SUPPLY.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE A SIZABLE INCREASE NEXT WEEK AND THEN EXPECT FROM WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS TOLD US THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO RAMP UP OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

>> Eric: DOCTOR, WITH THAT JOHNSON & JOHNSON ONE-SHOT VACCINE BE BETTER POLITICAL INDICATED TO SOME OF THE HARDER TO EACH GROUPS SINCE IT'S ONLY ONE SHOT OR WOULD IT MATTER?

>> CERTAINLY THERE'S LOGISTICAL ADVANTAGES FOR THE ONE SHOP, IT DOES NOT NEED ULTRA COLD AND THE WAY THAT THE DOSES CAN BE USED AND STORED.

THERE'S MULTIPLE LOGISTICAL ADVANTAGES THERE, TOO.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU GET OFFERED A SHOT, WHETHER IT'S THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON, MODERNA, PFIZER, THAT'S THE BEST SHOT TO TAKE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE DATA ON ALL OF THEM IS WONDERFUL AT PREVENTING HOSPITALIZATION, PREVENTING DEATH.

SO WHATEVER SHOT YOU GET OFFERED, CERTAINLY WE HAVE TO TAKE THE LOGISTICAL CONSIDERATIONS AS WE FIGURE OUT OUR STRATEGY, BUT WE WON'T BE DOING IT JUST BASED OFF OF ONE VERSUS TWO DOSE.

>> Eric: COMMISSIONER, AT THE NEWS CONFERENCE TODAY, YOU SAID, WE'RE IN A RACE BETWEEN THE VACCINE AND THE VARIANT.

EXPLAIN, PLEASE.

>> WELL, WE ARE SEEING VARIANTS, MUTATIONS ON THE ORIGINAL STRAINS OF THE VIRUS.

AND WE KNOW THAT SOME OF THOSE NEW VARIANTS ARE MORE EASILY TRANSMITTED BETWEEN PEOPLE AND THERE'S SOME EMERGING EVIDENCE THAT SOME OF THE VARIANTS MAY PRODUCE MORE SEVERE DISEASE.

SO THE SOONER WE CAN GET PEOPLE VACCINATED, THE LESS TRANSMISSION THERE'S GOING TO BE, THE LESS CHANCE FOR NEW VARIATIONS -- NEW VARIANTS TO ARISE.

BUT WE DEFINITELY, CATHY MENTIONED, WE'RE SEEING CASES GROW IN MINNESOTA AND WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF THAT IS DRIVEN BY THESE NEW VARIANTS THAT ARE EASIER TO TRANSMIT.

>> Cathy: SAY, OVER THE PAST YEAR, DURING THIS PANDEMIC, WHEN I'VE TALKED TO VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS, I'VE ALWAYS ASKED THIS QUESTION, SO I'M ASKING IT TO BOTH OF YOU, I KNOW WE'RE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS, BUT WHAT STILL KEEPS YOU UP AT NIGHT, DOCTOR?

>> YEAH, FOR ME, I THINK IT REALLY TIES INTO THAT LAST QUESTION.

WE SEE THESE GAPS IN WHO'S GETTING THE SHOT AND WHO'S NOT, AND INVERSE OF THE GAP OF WHO'S AT MOST RISK.

WE KNOW THAT BLACK, HISPANIC, INDIGENOUS, ASIAN COMMUNITIES HAVE HAD HIGHER DEATH RATES, AND, SO, IF WE ARE GOING TO SEE THESE VARIANTS REALLY POP UP AND, YET, COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN HARDEST HIT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LESS VACCINATED, I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT ANOTHER SPIKE OF DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT OF COVID-19 AND THE IMPACT BEING DISPROPORTIONATELY FELT BY OUR BLACK, INDIGENOUS, HISPANIC, ASIAN COMMUNITIES, THOSE FROM LOW-INCOME BACKGROUNDS.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S DRIVEN ME TO STEP INTO THIS ROLE AND LEAVE MY PRACTICE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO REALLY HELP THE STATE HOPEFULLY MEET THE POTENTIAL WE HAVE.

>> Cathy: COMMISSIONER, SAME QUESTION TO YOU.

>> WELL, MY WORRY IS JUST THAT WE'RE SO CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO REALLY GET THIS PANDEMIC BEHIND US, BUT WE'RE SO TIRED, JUST HOPE THAT PEOPLE CAN KEEP UP THEIR GUARD FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER, KEEP DOING THOSE BASIC PREVENTION ACTIVITIES AND TAKE THE VACCINE WHEN IT'S OFFERED TO YOU.

WE ARE SO CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO PUT THIS PANDEMIC IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR.

THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN GOING FORWARD FROM THIS, BUT WE JUST NEED MINNESOTANS TO HANG IN THERE AND KEEP DOING THE GOOD THINGS THAT HAVE KEPT US IN A PRETTY GOOD POSITION TO FINISH THIS OFF IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.

>> Cathy: ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER, DOCTOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> Eric: THANKS A LOT.

♪♪♪ >> ERIC: AFTER A TUMULTUOUS ELECTION AND DEADLY AFTERMATH, LAWMAKERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND HERE IN MINNESOTA ARE ATTEMPTING TO MAKE CHANGES TO ELECTION LAW.

THE STATE HAS LONG EMBRACED A BIPARTISAN APPROACH TO VOTING LEGISLATION, BUT AS MARY LAHAMMER REPORTS, THAT TRADITION IS BEING PUT TO THE TEST AT THE STATE CAPITOL.

>> Mary: AFTER ERRONEOUS CLAIMS OF VOTER FRAUD, CAUSED PROTESTS AT THE STATE CAPITOL AND A DEADLY INSURRECTION AT THE U.S. CAPITOL, MINNESOTA SENATE REPUBLICANS HAVE A LEGISLATIVE RESPONSE AWAITING FINAL ACTION ON THE FLOOR AFTER PASSING COMMITTEES.

>> THERE IS ONGOING CONCERNS ABOUT VOTER INTEGRITY AND I THINK IT'S LEGITIMATE AND I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA HAVE A RIGHT TO HEAR WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF PHOTO I.D.

REQUIREMENT FOR VOTING.

>> WE ALL SAW THE RESULT OF WHAT THOSE LIES LED TO.

LED TO INSURRECTION, WITH HORRIFIC ATTACKS ON LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THE U.S. CAPITOL ON JANUARY 6th.

TELLING LIES ABOUT OUR ELECTIONS HAD DEADLY CONSEQUENCES.

>> Mary: REPUBLICANS HERE AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE CITING CONCERNS ABOUT ELECTION INTEGRITY IN MOVING THE LEGISLATION.

>> HAVING AN I.D., IT IS A CRITICAL PART OF BEING ABLE TO FUNCTION IN SOCIETY AND, SO, REGARDLESS OF THE VOTER I.D.

REQUIREMENT, WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE AN I.D.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR LIMITING THEIR ABILITY TO ENGAGE.

>> PART OF A NATIONWIDE TREND TO INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

DESPITE BEING REJECTED BY MINNESOTANS BEFORE SENATE REPUBLICANS ARE ONCE AGAIN ADVANCING EFFORTS LIKE VOTER I.D.

AND PROVISIONAL BALLOTING THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO CAST THEIR BALLOT.

>> Mary: THE DEMOCRATS NOTE THAT VOTER I.D.

WAS ALREADY REJECTED BY MINNESOTA VOTERS A DECADE AGO AND IT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS PEOPLE OF COLOR, BUT REPUBLICANS SAY THE VOTE NO EFFORT ON A BALLOT QUESTION ON MARRIAGE AT THE SAME TIME AFFECTED THE RESULTS.

>> THE BIGGEST MESSAGE I REMEMBER WAS, TO SEND IT BACK AND DO IT RIGHT.

THAT WAS A KEY MESSAGE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

>> Mary: MEANWHILE, DFLers WHO CONTROL THE MINNESOTA HOUSE, HAVE BILLS TO REMOVE RESTRICTIONS ON VOTING.

>> IN MINNESOTA WE HAVE A PROUD LEGACY OF HIGH VOTER TURNOUT AND SAFE ELECTIONS.

A HANDFUL OF POLITICIANS WANT TO TAKE US BACKWARDS AND SILENCE THE VOICES OF BLACK, BROWN, YOUNG, ELDERLY, AND NEW MINNESOTANS BY MAKING IT HARDER TO VOTE AND CREATING BARRIERS TO REGISTER.

>> Mary: COMMUNITY LEADERS WANT TO RESTORE THE VOTE FOR FOLKS CONVICTED OF CRIMES.

>> RIGHT NOW WITH 60,000 MINNESOTANS WHOSE LIVES WERE TRANSFORMED OVERNIGHT IF WE WERE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE IT LAW THAT WE INCLUDE EVERYBODY AND BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT MESSAGING THAT EVERYBODY CAN VOTE.

UNDERSTAND THIS.

ME, MYSELF, I WAS CONVICTED OF A FELONY WHEN I WAS 19 YEARS OLD.

AND FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS I THOUGHT I COULDN'T VOTE.

>> MINNESOTA HAS HAD THIS TRADITION THAT ANY ELECTION LAW CHANGES HAD TO BE BIPARTISAN TO BE SIGNED, THAT'S BEEN GOVERNORS OF VARIOUS POLITICAL PARTIES WHO HAVE UPHELD THIS, SO DO WE FORESEE ANY ABILITY TO GET TRULY BIPARTISAN ELECTION LAW CHANGES THROUGH IF THAT'S STILL THE TRADITION IN LIGHT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE AND IN OTHER STATES?

>> WELL, MARY, YOU MAKE AN EXCELLENT POINT.

THIS TRADITIONALLY HAS BEEN BIPARTISAN, AND THE STRUCTURE THAT MINNESOTA CURRENTLY HAS HAS BEEN BUILT OVER THE DECADES ON A VERY BIPARTISAN BASIS.

A VERY INCLUSIVE PROCESS, NOT INCLUSIVE ENOUGH, AS WE'VE JUST BEEN HEARING.

BUT WHAT'S UNFORTUNATE IS THAT THIS IS BEING POLITICIZED AND IT HAS BECOME PARTISAN.

>> JUST LIKE FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN CLINTON AND MANY FOLKS THAT SUPPORTED HER FELT LIKE THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN FROM HER, NOW YOU HAVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SAME ISSUE FROM THE OTHER SIDE, AND ANY TIME YOU HAVE A VERY VERY VERY CLOSE ELECTION, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF FRUSTRATION.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LISTEN AND THAT IS WHAT I'M DOING AND AT THE SAME TIME I'M NOT DEFENDING BAD BEHAVIOR FROM ANYONE.

>> Mary: MINNESOTA HAS LONG LED THE NATION IN VOTER TURNOUT AND DID SO AGAIN IN THE LAST ELECTION, THANKS, IN PART, TO EASIER ACCESS TO VOTING LIKE SAME-DAY REGISTRATION AND THE RECENT EXPANSION OF EARLY VOTING.

>> EXPANDING VOTER ACCESS, PROTECTING VOTER RIGHTS AND SAFETY FROM INTIMIDATION AND PRESERVING OUR ELECTION INTEGRITY BY ALLOCATING HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT FUNDS WITHOUT HESITATION ARE NOT AND SHOULD NOT BE PARTISAN ISSUES.

♪♪♪ >> CATHY: THE MINNESOTA CHAMBER FOUNDATION ISSUED A REPORT THIS WEEK.

KEY FINDINGS INCLUDED THAT IMMIGRANTS, YOUNGER THAN THE TYPICAL MINNESOTAN, ARE DRIVING BOTH POPULATION AND ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE NORTH STAR STATE.

ANOTHER FINDING, FOREIGN-BORN ENTREPRENEURS ARE LESS COMMON HERE THAN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.

HERE TO TALK ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE AS AN IMMIGRANT STARTING A COMPANY IN OUR REGION, DEEPINDER SINGH.

HE'S THE FOUNDER AND CEO OF 75F, A COMPANY THAT OFFERS HIGH-TECH SOLUTIONS TO REDUCE ENERGY CONSUMPTION IN COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

Mr. SINGE, THANKS FOR JOINING US.

SINGH.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE.

>> Cathy: WELL, YOU COULD HAVE GONE ANYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY TO START A BUSINESS, BUT YOU CAME TO MINNESOTA.

WHY DID YOU DO THAT?

>> THANK YOU FOR ASKING ME THE QUESTION.

I WAS ON A NATIONAL TEAM, I WAS TRAINING FOR THE OLYMPICS, I WAS LOOKING FOR A PLACE WHERE I COULD HAVE A SHOOTING RANGE IN THE BACKYARD.

MY WIFE IS A PHYSICIAN, SHE INTERVIEWED AT THE MANKATO CLINIC.

WE LIKED THE PLACE.

AND WE DO HAVE A SHOOTING RANGE IN THE BACKYARD, SO THAT'S HOW I ORIGINALLY CAME TO MINNESOTA.

>> Eric: THAT'S AN INTERESTING STORY.

I'M GUESSING IN A BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT OFTEN IT'S WHO YOU KNOW MORE THAN WHAT YOU KNOW.

IS NETWORKING A PROBLEM FOR IMMIGRANTS AND SECOND-GENERATION FOLKS FROM IMMIGRANT PARENTS, IS THAT NETWORKING A PROBLEM?

>> IT DEFINITELY IS.

I MEAN, SOME OF IT IS EVEN THE CONCEPT OF NETWORKING ITSELF, WHEN I GREW UP IN INDIA WAS NOT NECESSARILY KNOWN, RIGHT.

I MEAN, THE CONCEPT THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY GO OUT AND ACTIVELY NETWORK AND MEET NEW PEOPLE WAS A LITTLE BIT ALIEN TO ME.

ALSO, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY CULTURAL SENSITIVITY AND LANGUAGE BARRIERS AS WELL.

SO WHEN I CAME, I WAS RELATIVELY FRESH ON TO THE CONTINENT.

SO IT'S TAKEN A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO ACTUALLY OVERCOME THOSE AND ACTUALLY CREATE THE NETWORK AROUND MYSELF.

>> Cathy: IS THE STATE WELCOMING TO IMMIGRANT BUSINESS PEOPLE?

>> I TELL YOU THIS, WHEN WE MOVED OVER HERE, WE SAID, WE SAID, GEHRING TO MOVE IN THE FIRST -- WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS, IT WAS MY WIFE'S FIRST JOB, WE SAID, HEY, LET'S GO CHECK IT OUT N A COUPLE OF YEAR, YOU KNOW, YOU SWITCH AFTER YOUR FIRST JOB SO, WE'LL DO THAT.

SO THAT WAS IN 2006.

WE DIDN'T EVEN THROW AWAY THE PACKING BOXES BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO MOVE.

AND IT'S NOT BEEN THE WEATHER THAT'S KEPT US HERE.

RIGHT?

IT'S BEEN THE WARMTH OF THE PEOPLE.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS WELCOMING AND THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN VERY VERY WELCOMING.

>> Eric: YOU WON THE MINNESOTA CUP, WHICH IS A CARLSON SCHOOL OF BUSINESS ENTREPRENEUR'S AWARD.

AND I WONDER WHAT KIND OF CREDIBILITY AND FUNDING THAT MAY HAVE COME WITH IT?

>> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

I THINK IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING, THE MINNESOTA CUP IS KIND OF UNIQUE.

IT'S THE LARGEST STATE-RUN BUSINESS-RUN COMPETITION N MY CASE, I THINK IT WAS IT WAS EXCEPTIONALLY INSTRUMENTAL AND PIVOTAL IN TERMS OF THE SUCCESS OF THE COMPANY.

WE WON THAT IN 2014.

AND THE MONEY WAS GOOD, IT WAS ABOUT $130,000, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.

BUT THERE'S TWO OTHER KEY THINGS THAT IT DID FOR PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

ONE OF WHICH WAS NETWORKING, AS YOU MENTIONED, SO THEY HAD A STRUCTURED APPROACH TO NETWORKING AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU GOT PAIRED WITH THE RIGHT KIND OF MENTORS.

SO, AS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WAS MY MENTOR, ONE THAT I ACTUALLY ASKED HIM TO QUIT THE COMPANY THAT HE WAS RUNNING AND COME JOIN ME.

SO HE WAS THE FIRST PERSON THAT I HAD, AND IT'S ONLY THANKS TO THE MINNESOTA CUP.

THE SECOND PIECE WAS THAT THE MINNESOTA CUP, BEYOND JUST THE MONEY, IT WAS THE CREDIBILITY.

THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF P.R.

OPPORTUNITY THAT WAS CREATED BECAUSE OF THE MINNESOTA CUP.

AND THAT WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN MAKING SURE THAT WE GOT THE ATTENTION OF INVESTORS AND WE DEFINITELY GOT THE ATTENTION OF SOME OF OUR FIRST CUSTOMERS.

SO ALL OF OUR FIRST CUSTOMERS WERE BECAUSE OF THE FREE P.R.

WE GOT FROM THE MINNESOTA CUP.

SO, I MEAN, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT HAVING BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEN HAVING WON THAT.

>> Cathy: BECAUSE PRIOR TO THAT, DID YOU NOT START YOUR BUSINESS IN YOUR HOME?

>> ACTUALLY, THIS BUSINESS ITSELF, YOU'RE RIGHT, I MEAN, IT DID START IN MY HOME.

AND YOU KNOW, THEY SAY, IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING STORY, WE MOVED TO MINNESOTA, I'M AN ENGINEER, I'M A NETWORK ENGINEER, AND WE PUT MY DAUGHTER, WHO WAS 1 YEAR OLD, WE MOVED HER INTO HER OWN BEDROOM WHEN WE GOT TO MINNESOTA.

AND SHE WOULD WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT CRYING.

AND I FOUND OUT IT'S BECAUSE THE TEMPERATURE IN HER ROOM WAS DROPPING ABOUT 10 DEGREES AT NIGHT, THE THERMOSTAT WAS IN THE MASTER BEDROOM, WE WERE WEST FACING, IT WAS NICE AND COMFORTABLE THERE, THE SUN WOULD COME UP, WARM UP THAT ROOM, BUT THE REST OF THE HOUSE WAS FREEZING.

SO, FOUNDED BY BILL GATES AND JEFF BEZOS, AND ALONG WITH THAT, WE GOT AN INVESTMENT WITH THE CLIMATE INVESTMENT, AT THAT POINT THEY WERE THE WORLD'S LARGEST CLIMATE-FOCUSED FUND.

AND, AGAIN, WE WERE FORTUNATE THAT WE WERE ONE OF TWO COMPANIES THAT BOTH OF THESE MAMMOTH FUNDS HAVE RESTED IN ON CLIMATE CHANGE.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS EXPAND WORLDWIDE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SCALE UP OUR IMPACT.

BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING, I MEAN, I TELL THIS TO EVEN MY EMPLOYEES, THAT EVERY TIME 75F MAKES MONEY, WE'RE ALSO REMOVING GREENHOUSE GASES AND MAKING SURE OUR FUTURE -- FUTURE GENERATIONS ARE DOING GOOD.

SO DEFINITELY SCALING THIS UP AT THE GLOBAL LEVEL.

>> Cathy: WELL, Mr. SINGH, WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST, YOU AND YOUR FIRM, 75F.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> Eric: THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> Eric: YOU BET, THANKS.

♪♪♪ >> WHEN I WAS YOUNG, WE WERE SO PROUD THAT OUR IRISH GREAT GRANDPA ONCE OWNED PIKE ISLAND.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DAKOTA PEOPLE WHO LIVED HERE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE THAT?

DO I DARE LEARN ABOUT THOSE STORIES?

THE ONES NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT.

>> STORIES I DIDN'T KNOW, MARCH 28th, 4:00 P.M. ON TPT 2, AND JOIN US LIVE AT 5:00, VISIT TPT.ORG/EVENTS FOR MORE DETAILS.

>> ERIC: THE U OF M DIDN'T TAKE LONG TO NAME A NEW MENS' BASKETBALL COACH.

IT HAPPENED ABOUT AS QUICKLY AS THE BIG TEN DESTROYED EVERYONE'S MARCH MADNESS BRACKETS.

FORMER BIG TEN STANDOUT AND GOPHER ASSISTANT COACH BEN JOHNSON WAS THE CHOICE TO LEAD THE MEN CAGERS.

HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND OTHER SPORTING NEWS, LARRY FITZGERALD, SR. YOU CAN HEAR HIS RADIO REPORTS ON THE NATIONAL PROGRAMMING NETWORK.

FITZY, MY FRIENDS IN GOPHER NATION WERE KIND OF TAKEN ABACK BY THE HIRE.

BUT AS THE WEEK HAS GONE ON, HE'S GAINING SOME FRIENDS, BEN JOHNSON.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> WELL, I THINK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE PLAYED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA AND HE WAS IN A UNIQUE SITUATION THAT HE WAS, YOU KNOW, A GRADUATE OF DeLASALLE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN CHOSE NORTHWESTERN, BUT THEN DIDN'T STAY THERE AND TRANSFERRED BACK TO MINNESOTA, FINISHED HIS CAREER AND GOT HIS DEGREE.

AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE.

I ALSO THINK THE TRANSFER PORTAL WITH A COUPLE OF THEIR STAR PLAYERS SUBMITTING THEIR NAMES RIGHT AFTER RICHARD PITINO HAD BEEN DISMISSED KIND OF FRIGHTENED THE ATHLETIC PEOPLE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA.

YOU KNOW, Mr. COYLE.

AND I THINK THAT LED TO THEM SAYING, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, WE GOT TO GET SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT THIS PROGRAM'S ALL ABOUT FROM THE INSIDE OUT, ALSO KNOWS A LOT OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM.

AND HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE RECRUITING OF THEM.

AND I THINK ALL OF THAT ADDED UP TO THEM SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT?

WE TRUST BEN JOHNSON, WE KNOW BEN JOHNSON.

AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE FOR HIM TO BECOME THE NEXT COACH BECAUSE IT CLEARED UP ANOTHER ISSUE, YOU KNOW, BLACK HIRE, THE UNIVERSITY HAD AN ISSUE WITH THAT, THE 11 LAST COACHES THEY'VE HIRED OVER THERE, OVER THE LAST TEN PLUS YEARS, NOT ONE OF THEM WAS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN.

SO THIS TOOK CARE OF A LOT OF THINGS FOR THEM.

BUT THE REALITY IS THIS.

FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO GO TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA AND HELP BRING THIS PROGRAM WHERE THEY WANT IT TO BE AND EVERYBODY LOVES THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, BUT NOT ALL THESE KIDS ARE EXCITED ABOUT PLAYING IN A BARN.

AND, SO, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A SPECIAL UNIQUE LEADER TO BE ABLE TO JOIN THAT MINDSET FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE TO HAVE A DREAM BECAUSE THIS STATE HAS GREAT ATHLETES THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY COMING UP AND GROWING UP AND YOU LOOK AT GONZAGA, YOU LOOK AT CONNECTICUT, IT SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT GREAT ATHLETES ARE BEING BORN RIGHT HERE AND RAISED AND YOU GOT TO FIND A WAY TO BLOCK THE BORDERS AND KEEP THEM IN STATE.

>> Cathy: WELL, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE BARN, HERE, FITZY.

NOW, THOSE OF US OF A CERTAIN AGE LOVE THE BARN.

BUT THAT STORY IN THE STRIB LAST WEEK, OTHER COACHES SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BARN'S KIND OF A NEGATIVE DRAW FOR RECRUITS.

SO WHAT DOES THE SCHOOL DO ABOUT THAT?

>> WELL, THEY CAN'T CHANGE THAT.

BUT, LIKE I SAID, THE TRADITION THAT'S BUILT AROUND THE BARN IS GREAT.

BUT THE RECRUITING OF 14 SCHOOLS IN THE BIG TEN, IF YOU TAKE MINNESOTA OUT OF THAT, THOSE OTHER COACHES ARE USING THE BARN AGAINST MINNESOTA.

AND PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED WITH THE PRACTICE FACILITIES AND THAT TYPE OF THING, SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF THAT GOES ON IN THE RECRUITING OF THE STAR ATHLETES, THEY KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO BEAT YOU ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN THAT THEY BELIEVE WILL WORK TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.

AND, SO, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PLANS FOR THEM TO BUILD A NEW BASKETBALL FACILITY FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA.

>> Eric: HOW ABOUT THIS RUSSIAN PHENOM WITH THE WILD?

>> NO, I JUST THINK IT'S INCREDIBLE WHAT THE WILD ARE DOING.

YOU KNOW, TO BE 21-10-1 AND JUST DOMINATING ON THEIR HOME ICE AND FANS HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF IT.

THAT'S UNFORTUNATE, DUE TO COVID.

BUT I JUST LIKE THE WAY THIS TEAM PLAYS.

THEY GET THE PUCK OUT OF THEIR END.

THEY'VE BEEN STRONG AT THE BLUE LINE.

AND THEY'RE GETTING SOLID GOALTENDING AND COACHING AND I JUST LOVE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE REALLY ENERGIZED MINNESOTA.

I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE TWINS LOSING IN THE PLAYOFFS, THE VIKINGS SEASON, THE GOPHER SEASON, AND THEN THE BASKETBALL SEASON.

IT'S BEEN A LOT OF LOSIN' AROUND HERE.

SO IT'S REALLY GREAT TO HAVE A TEAM THAT HAS TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO SHOW THAT MINNESOTA CAN STILL WIN.

>> Eric: FIVE MINNESOTA SCHOOLS IN THE HOCKEY TOURNAMENT.

PRETTY AMAZING.

>> IT IS.

AND I FIND OUT ONE OF THEM GETS TO ADVANCE BECAUSE OF SOME RESTRICTIONS AND COVID PROTOCOLS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

BUT IT'S GREAT TO KNOW THAT THIS STATE, IT'S THE STATE OF HOCKEY FOR A REASON, AND IT'S GREAT TO KNOW THAT THE TALENT HAS BEEN SPREAD TO MANY OF THE SCHOOLS.

I STILL FEEL LIKE THE GOPHER WOMEN SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE NCAA, YOU KNOW, BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY DIDN'T PUT THEM IN THERE.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> Cathy: GIVE ME YOUR BEST 30 SECONDS ON THE TWINS.

>> WELL, I STILL THINK THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A LEFT FIELDER.

YOU KNOWINGS THEY GAVE UP ON EDDIE ROSARIO, AND HE HAD SOME TERRIFIC YEARS AROUND HERE.

AND WHEN YOU GIVE UP ON YOUR NUMBER ONE PICK, AT LEAST FOR NOW, SEND HIM DOWN BECAUSE YOU DON'T THINK HE'S READY, THAT SPEAKS TO THEM FINDING SOMEONE THAT CAN STEP IN AND BE A PART OF A TEAM THAT'S GOING TO BE COUNTING ON A LEFT FIELDER WHO'S GOING TO NOT ONLY BE PRODUCTIVE FROM A DEFENSIVE STANDPOINT, BUT BE ABLE TO HIT THAT BASEBALL OUT OF THE PARK, LIKE THEY DID A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN THEY SET THE MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL RECORD.

>> Eric: YOU'RE ROCKIN' THAT CAMO, BY THE WAY.

THANKS, MAN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Cathy: BYE, FITZY.

♪♪♪ >> I GOT MY START AS AN ORGANIZER ON THE CAMPAIGN, AND REALLY FOUND A POLITICS THAT WAS ABOUT REACHING OUT TO FOLKS, BUILDING MULTIRACIAL, MULTIGENERATIONAL GENDER INCLUSIVE POLITICS, SO IT REALLY WAS ABOUT CREATING SOLUTIONS AND BRINGING PEOPLE IN.

SO I'M A VOTING RIGHTS LAWYER, FOR ME, IT'S HOW DO WE BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE PROCESS, HOW DO WE MAKE POLICY THAT REFLECTS THE VALUES OF FOLKS IN THE DISTRICT AND ACROSS THE STATE.

SO THAT'S WHY I RAN.

♪♪♪ >> CATHY: LAST MONTH WE CHATTED WITH NORTH SHORE PHOTOGRAPHER CHUCK OLSEN, AND WE HAD SO MUCH FUN WE THOUGHT WE WOULD TURN IT INTO A SERIES OF CONVERSATIONS WITH NORTHERN MINNESOTA PHOTOGRAPHERS.

TONIGHT WE'RE JOINED BY DUDLEY EDMONDSON.

HE'S A NATURE PHOTOGRAPHER AND FILMMAKER, WRITER, AND AN AVID OUTDOOR ENTHUSIAST.

HE LIVES IN DULUTH.

GOOD TO SEE YOU, DUDLEY.

WELCOME.

>> HEY, THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON.

>> Cathy: I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE A BIRDER, AND AS SUCH, HAWK RIDGE WAS THE REASON THAT KIND OF BROUGHT YOU TO MINNESOTA.

IS THAT PRETTY ACCURATE?

>> YEAH.

I MEAN, I CONSIDER MYSELF A BIRD NERD, I'VE BEEN WATCHING BIRDS FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS.

AND BUYING A HOUSE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S RIGHT BELOW THE RIDGE SO I CAN LITERALLY WATCH HAWKS IN FLIGHT IN MY BACKYARD.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST SITTING ON A LAWN CHAIR AND STARING UP AT THE SKY.

>> Eric: YOU REALLY ARE KIND OF A SWISS ARMY KNIFE WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THIS NATURE STUFF.

YOU DO IT ALL.

BUT THE BOOK YOU HAD, "BLACK AND BROWN FACES IN AMERICA'S WILD PLACES" ONE OF YOUR CAUSES IS TO GET MORE PEOPLE OF COLOR IN THE OUTDOORS.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT?

>> YEAH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR, PARTICULARLY FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS, YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAFETY CONCERNS FOR US IN THE OUT OF DOORS, AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT REPRESENTED VERY WELL IN CAREERS IN THE OUT OF DOORS, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, JUST HIKERS, RECREATIONALLISTS, YOU KNOW, SAFETY CONCERNS DUE TO SYSTEMIC RACISM IN AMERICA.

>> Cathy: I WANT TO -- WE COULD, OF COURSE, WE COULD DISCUSS THAT THE WHOLE REST OF THE SHOW, BUT LET'S SAY, KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PHOTOS THAT YOU HAVE.

>> UM-HUM.

>> Cathy: IF WE CAN PUT THEM UP ON THE SCREEN HERE.

THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES, I LOVE THIS PHOTO.

DO TELL ME, HOW IN THE HECK DID YOU CAPTURE THIS?

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I SAW THE LIGHT COMIN', BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

I COULD TELL THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE KIND OF SUNSETS.

AND DECIDED THAT I WANTED TO POSITION MYSELF IN A PLACE WHERE I COULD GET A REALLY NICE IMAGE OF SOME PARTS OF THE CITY.

I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE HAD THE ACTUAL SKYLINE, BUT, TO ME, THE HARBOR AND THE LIFT BRIDGE REALLY WORK WELL, PLUS YOU'VE GOT THE LAKE, YOU KNOW, REFLECTING BACK THAT BEAUTIFUL SKY.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT JUST MADE FOR ONE HECK OF A PHOTO.

AND I SHOT IT A LOT.

I MEAN, IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL, I JUST CLICKITY CLICK, YOU KNOW.

[ Laughter ] AND IT WAS HARD TO REALLY PICK MY FAVORITE, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE.

AND, OF COURSE, IT'S WINTER.

>> Cathy: AS A BIRDER, THIS IS A COOL SHOT, TOO, I THINK OWLS ARE THE COOLEST CREATURES.

YOU GOT A GREAT SHOT OF THIS GUY.

>> YEAH.

THAT'S A GREAT GRAY OWL UP IN THE BOG AREA NEAR MEADOWLANDS AND JUST ONE OF THOSE INVASION YEARS.

WE GET THEM ABOUT EVERY TEN OR 20 YEARS OR SO, I BELIEVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WHERE WE GET OWL INVASIONS.

AND THIS GREAT GRAY, YOU KNOW, HE HAS THE DOGWOOD BEHIND HIM, AND HE WAS LOOKING AROUND FOR STUFF TO EAT.

AND I JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME.

AGAIN, ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU JUST ARE CLICKING LIKE CRAZY.

AND YOU GET A GREAT SHOT.

>> Eric: AS WE LOOK AT LAKE SUPERIOR, WINTER STORM, YOU MUST REALLY KNOW WHEN YOU GOT SOMETHING SPECIAL, HUH?

>> YEAH, FOR ME, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND UNIQUE, SOMETIMES ALMOST UNREPEATABLE SITUATIONS MAKE FOR REALLY GREAT PHOTOS.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, A THUNDERSTORM OR ANY KIND OF INCLEMENT WEATHER REALLY MAKES FOR GOOD IMAGERY BECAUSE THERE'S A LEVEL OF EMOTION THAT IS CONVEYED TO PEOPLE.

TO ME, THIS PHOTO LOOKS ANGRY.

THE LAKE LOOKS PISSED OFF, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

[ Laughter ] >> Eric: YEAH.

>> AND IT MAKES FOR A REALLY GOOD IMAGE.

>> Cathy: YEAH, THE LAKE CAN GET AN IMRI, ABSOLUTELY.

NOW, THIS IS ALSO A LOVELY PHOTOGRAPH.

ANGRY.

THIS IS THE EXACT SAME OPPOSITE BECAUSE THE LAKE ALWAYS CHANGES, OBVIOUSLY.

SILVER BAY?

>> YEAH.

THIS IS, I WANT TO SAY THIS IS NEAR THE BLACK BEACH AREA, LOOKING BACK SOUTH TOWARDS DULUTH.

AND IT JUST REALLY -- THIS PHOTO IS A NUMBER OF DECADES OLD, BUT IT JUST REALLY WAS A NICE SITUATION AND I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO CONVEY, SOMETHING UNIQUE, SOMETHING THAT SORT OF MAKES YOU DO A DOUBLE TAKE OR LOOK CLOSELY OR JUST BE GENERALLY ENGAGED.

SOMETHING ABOUT THE WAY THE CLOUDS WERE HANGING AND SILHOUETTED ISLANDS AND THINGS THAT REALLY -- AND THE GLISTENING WATER THAT JUST MADE THIS AT LEAST AN IMAGE THAT I FOUND ATTRACTIVE, ANYWAY.

>> Eric: WE TRAVEL DOWN 61 TO TWO HARBORS AND SOME FROST TREES, FROST ON THE TREES, HUH?

>> YEAH.

THAT WAS -- THAT WAS THIS YEAR, THERE WERE A LOT OF FROST HAPPENING AROUND THE STATE, AT LEAST HERE IN NORTHEAST MINNESOTA.

AND I WENT OUT TO TRY TO CAPTURE SOME IMAGES.

I'M WORKING ON A GALLERY EXHIBIT FOR THE MINNESOTA MARINE ART MUSEUM THAT WILL BE ON IN SEPTEMBER, I THINK SEPTEMBER THE 10th IT STARTS.

AND SO I WAS LOOKING FOR IMAGES OF WATER, CLOUDS, LINE FROST, TO ME THAT'S ALL WATER, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE IMAGES THAT I CHOSE.

>> Cathy: I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU FOUND THIS GUY CLOSE TO HAWK RIDGE?

>> Eric: COME BACK AND SEE US AGAIN.

>> Cathy: THANKS, DUDLEY.

>> David: FOR MOST OF MY LIFE, I HAVE BEEN A RECIPIENT OF A VERY FOCUSED FORM OF CRITICISM.

FAMILY, FRIENDS, EVEN CO-WORKERS.

THEY ALL THINK I EAT TOO FAST.

I'VE ENDURED LECTURES, BLANK STARES, EVEN THE OCCASIONAL LOOK OF DISGUST.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT?

I AM FED UP.

WHICH I GUESS TECHNICALLY DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG.

EINSTEIN TAUGHT US THAT TIME IS RELATIVE.

MAYBE IT'S YOU WHO'S NOT EATING FAST ENOUGH.

♪♪♪ LYRICS: WHO CAN SAY... >> David: IMAGINE ALL THE YEARS OF MY LIFE I SPENT JUST WATCHING THE REST OF YOU CATCH UP.

THINK ABOUT WHAT I COULD HAVE BEEN DOING WITH ALL THIS FREE TIME.

I'M JUST SITTING HERE.

WATCHING YOU CHEW.

I MEAN, IT'S STEAMED BROCCOLI, IT'S ALREADY SOFT.

WHY DO YOU KEEP CHEWING?

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I'VE TRIED IT YOUR WAY.

IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT.

IT DOESN'T TASTE GOOD.

LOOK AT HER.

SHE'S PRETTY MUCH COME TO A COMPLETE STOP.

ALL I'M REALLY SAYING IS MAYBE IT'S TIME WE STOP JUDGING THE GASTROINTESTINALLY TALENTED.

BUT, NO, DON'T WORRY, I'LL WAIT.

I'M USED TO WAITING.

LYRICS: WHO CAN SAY... ♪♪♪ >> ERIC: THE JURY IS SET, AND OPENING ARGUMENTS IN THE TRIAL OF DEREK CHAUVIN ARE SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY.

WE'VE ASSEMBLED A TRIO OF LEGAL ANALYSTS TO HELP SET THE STAGE FOR WHAT TO EXPECT.

MARK OSLER, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR WHO TEACHES AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ST. THOMAS LAW SCHOOL.

SHANNON PRINCE IS A LAWYER IN PRIVATE PRACTICE IN NEW YORK CITY.

POLICING POLICY IS ONE OF HER SPECIALITIES.

JOE MARGULIES IS A PROFESSOR AT CORNELL LAW SCHOOL IN ITHACA, NEW YORK.

HE'S A FORMER MINNEAPOLIS DEFENSE ATTORNEY.

COUNSELOR MARGULIES, WHAT CAN WE EXPECT FROM THE OPENING STATEMENTS ON MONDAY?

>> WELL, BOTH PARTIES WILL PREVIEW WHAT THEY THINK THE EVIDENCE WILL SHOW.

I THINK THAT YOU'LL GET A HINT AT REALLY THE CORE, WHAT I ANTICIPATE WILL BE THE CORE DISPUTE IN THIS CASE.

IN THE TYPICAL POLICE SHOOTING CASE WHERE THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THE OFFICER CAUSED THE DEATH AND THEN THE ONLY QUESTION IS WHETHER HE REASONABLY BUT MISTAKENLY BELIEVED THAT, FOR INSTANCE, THE DESCEDENT HAD A WEAPON.

THE QUESTION IN THIS CASE IS WHETHER -- I ANTICIPATE THE QUESTION WILL BE IS WHETHER CHAUVIN CAUSED THE DEATH OR, MORE PARTICULARLY, WHETHER THE STATE CAN PROVE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT HE CAUSED IT.

AND I ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE CONFLICTING EXPERT TESTIMONY ABOUT THAT AND THE JURY'S GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY HAVE TO DECIDE IN THE CONVENTIONAL CASE AND I THINK THAT WILL BE PREVIEWED IN THE OPENING STATEMENTS.

>> Eric: SHANNON PRINCE, THE JUDGE WILL ALWAYS TELL THE JURY THAT WHAT THE LAWYERS SAY IS NOT EVIDENCE.

BUT DOES THIS SET A TONE, THESE OPENING STATEMENTS, OR WHAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF THEM?

>> ABSOLUTELY, THEY SET A TONE.

OPENING STATEMENTS, LIKE CLOSING STATEMENTS, ARE THE ONLY TIMES THAT THE LAWYERS ARE PERMITTED TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE JURY.

THE LAWYERS GET TO TELL THE STORY OF THE CASE FROM THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE, AND ALSO THEY GET TO FRAME THE EVIDENCE.

THEY GET TO PROVIDE A CONTEXT THROUGH WHICH THAT EVIDENCE IS ANALYZED.

>> Cathy: MARK OSLER, LET'S TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT HERE, LET'S BRING YOU INTO THIS, PROFESSOR.

JOE MENTIONED THAT THERE WILL BE DUELING EXPERT ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LEVELS, HOW ABOUT DUELING EXPERTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE AUTOPSY, BECAUSE THE AUTOPSY FINDINGS, I'M SURE, WILL BE A KEY PIECE OF EVIDENCE, RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

AND WE CAN EXPECT BOTH SIDES TO TALK ABOUT THE EXPERTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BRING FORWARD.

AND WE SHOULDN'T FORGET, TOO THAT SOME OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED DURING JURY SELECTION ARE GOING TO MATTER.

WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A NURSE WITH MEDICAL EXPERIENCE.

THAT'S UNUSUAL IN A CASE LIKE THIS.

AND, SO, THERE ARE GOING TO BE TREATING THEIR EXPERTS WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THIS JURY WHO ARE IN THE HEALTH PROFESSIONS.

>> Eric: JOE, IF YOU WERE DEFENDING CHAUVIN, WOULD YOU PUT HIM ON THE STAND?

>> I THINK THAT'S THE CRITICAL STRATEGIC QUESTION.

IN THE CONVENTIONAL CASE, WHERE THE QUESTION IS WHETHER HE ACTED REASONABLY BUT MISTAKENLY, YOU GENERALLY WANT THE DEFENDANT TO TESTIFY BECAUSE HE CAN -- ONE, HE CAN HUMANIZE HIMSELF AND HE CAN SAY, LOOK, I'M SO SORRY, NOW I KNOW THAT WHAT HE WAS REACHING FOR WASN'T A GUN, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT AT THE TIME.

HERE, LOOK, YOU SEE ON THE TAPE, WHERE HE MOVES HIS ARM THAT WAY, I DIDN'T KNOW, AND IF THAT HAD BEEN A GUN, I'D BE DEAD.

SO I HAD TO ACT.

AT THE SAME TIMES LIKE THAT -- STATEMENTS LIKE THAT WHICH JURORS TEND TO BE VERY SYMPATHETIC TOWARD IS WHY IN THE CONVENTIONAL CASE THESE ARE HARD CASES FOR THE PROSECUTION TO WIN.

BECAUSE IN RETROSPECT, WE MIGHT KNOW WE MADE A MISTAKE, BUT, AT THE TIME, IT MIGHT SEEM LIKE HE ACTED REASONABLY.

WHICH IS ALL YOU NEED FOR AN ACQUITTAL.

IN THIS CASE, HOWEVER, THERE'S NOT MUCH CHAUVIN CAN SAY THAT BEARS ON CAUSATION.

HE CAN'T LIKELY SAY ANYTHING THAT WILL BE RELEVANT TO WHETHER HE CAUSED THE DEATH.

THAT'S REALLY SUBJECT TO EXPERT TESTIMONY.

AND HE MAY NOT BE A GOOD WITNESS ON THAT.

SO I THINK THAT THE TOUGH STRATEGIC QUESTION IS WHETHER TO CALL CHAUVIN AND, IN FACT, I WOULD BET THAT THEY DON'T CALL HIM.

>> Cathy: SHANNON PRINCE, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> WELL, AS Mr. MARGULIES SAYS, THERE'S ALWAYS PROS AND CONS TO CALLING A DEFENDANT AS A WITNESS.

ON THE ONE HAND, HE'S ALLOWED TO SPEAK, HE CAN SHOW HIMSELF IN A DIFFERENT CONTEXT FROM THAT IN WHICH THE WORLD KNOWS HIM.

FROM HOW HE'S DEPICTED IN THAT HORRIFIC VIDEO WITH HIS KNEE ON Mr. FLOYD'S NECK.

BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND, ANY TIME COUNSEL PUTS A DEFENDANT ON THE STAND, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT RISK THAT HE'LL INCRIMINATE HIMSELF.

AND SINCE THE CORE OF THE DEFENSE'S ARGUMENT IS LIKELY TO BE THAT Mr. FLOYD WAS KILLED NOT BECAUSE OF THE FORCE EXERTED BY EX-OFFICER CHAUVIN BUT BECAUSE OF THE FENTANYL IN HIS SYSTEM AND HIS UNDERLYING HEALTH CONDITIONS, AS Mr. MARGULIES SAID, THAT CANNOT BE PROVEN THROUGH EX-OFFICER CHAUVIN'S TESTIMONY, IT CAN ONLY BE PROVEN THROUGH THE TESTIMONY OF EXPERT WITNESSES.

SO IF I WERE DEFENSE COUNSEL, I WOULD NOT PUT HIM ON THE STAND.

>> Eric: AS A PROSECUTOR, MARK, WHAT WOULD YOU -- WHAT QUESTIONS WOULD YOU HAVE FOR CHAUVIN?

DOES THE VIDEOTAPE JUST SPEAK FOR ITSELF OR WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET AT HIM PRETTY WELL?

>> NO, THE KEY AS A PROSECUTOR WOULD BE IMPEACHING HIM.

AND THERE'S SOME THINGS THEY COULD GO AFTER.

NOW, NORMALLY YOU SEE PEOPLE NOT TAKE THE STAND BECAUSE THEY HAVE CRIMINAL HISTORY.

AND THAT'S NOT TRUE HERE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE PROSECUTORS WANTING TO BRING IN THINGS LIKE HIS TAX PROBLEMS, THE FACT THAT THERE'S ALLEGATIONS THAT HE WAS VOTING ILLEGALLY IN FLORIDA.

THOSE GO TO VORACITY.

AND IF HE TAKES A STAND, IT COULD OPEN THINGS UP TO THAT AND THE PROSECUTOR WILL GO RIGHT THERE.

>> Cathy: JOE, THAT VIDEO, OF COURSE, WAS HORRIBLE AND SEEN AROUND THE WORLD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TIMES, OBVIOUSLY.

WHAT'S THE DEFENSE AGAINST THAT VIDEO?

>> I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY HE'S NOT GOING TO TESTIFY.

BECAUSE IF HE TESTIFIES, HE'D BE CALLED TO ACCOUNT FOR WHY HE USED THAT TECHNIQUE, THAT RESTRAINT TECHNIQUE, WHICH IS PROBABLY NOT NECESSARY AND PROBABLY IS THE BASIS FOR AT LEAST A CULPABLE NEGLIGENCE CHARGE.

AND IF HE TESTIFIES, I THINK HE'S GOING TO HAVE A TOUGH TIME EXPLAINING IT AND THEY'VE GOT TO SAY, YES, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A MISTAKE, MAYBE IT WAS NECESSARY, MAYBE IT WASN'T, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT CAUSED IT.

AND THEY'VE GOT TO KEEP -- FROM THE DEFENSE PERSPECTIVE, THEY'VE GOT TO KEEP THE JURY'S EYE ON THAT WHICH THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO PROVE, WHICH IS WHATEVER HE DID, YOU MAY NOT LIKE HIM, BUT HE DIDN'T CAUSE THE DEATH.

I ANTICIPATE THAT WILL BE THEIR ASSERTION.

REGARDLESS OF WHAT'S IN THE VIDEO.

>> Eric: SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

SHANNON, CHANCE FOR A HUNG JURY IS LESSENED, MAYBE, BECAUSE THERE ARE NOW THREE OPTIONS FOR THE JURY TO CONSIDER?

>> SO, EVERY TIME THERE'S ANOTHER CHARGE ADDED, THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE JURY TO CONVICT.

AND EVEN IF THE JURY DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE MOST EXTREME CHARGE, THEY CAN STILL HOLD THAT DEFENDANT RESPONSIBLE.

SO I DO THINK THAT THE FACT THAT EX-OFFICER CHAUVIN HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SECOND-DEGREE FELONY MURDER, THIRD-DEGREE MURDER, AS WELL AS MANSLAUGHTER MAKES IT LESS LIKELY THAT THE JURY WILL BE HUNG.

>> Cathy: WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF HAVING THAT THIRD-DEGREE MURDER COUNT IN THERE, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT REALLY COULD BE A DISASTER FOR THE PROSECUTION.

AND THAT IS, THEY GET A CONVICTION ONLY ON THIRD-DEGREE MURDER, AND THEN THAT GETS REVERSED BY THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE.

BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALREADY CONSIDERING THAT QUESTION IN THE NOOR CASE.

IF SO, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A REALLY HARD OUTCOME FOR THE PROSECUTION.

>> Eric: JOE, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DUELING EXPERTS, HOW DOES A JURY TYPICALLY DECIDE WHO THEY BELIEVE MORE?

>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE GREAT BLACK BOX.

THEY'LL MAKE ASSESSMENTS ABOUT WHICH SEEMS MORE CREDIBLE TO THEM, THEY'LL MAKE ASSESSMENTS ABOUT WHICH EXPERT GIVES EVIDENCE THAT SEEMS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ABOUT THE WAY THE WORLD OPERATES.

IT'S RELEVANT, AS MARK SAYS, THAT YOU HAVE JURORS WITH MEDICAL EXPERIENCE.

THEY'RE TOLD TO BASE THEIR OPINION ONLY ON THE TESTIMONY, BUT THEY CAN BRING THEIR OWN EXPERTISE TO THE QUESTIONS.

SO I ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY.

NOW, WHETHER THE NURSE'S EXPERTISE IS OF THE SORT THAT WOULD BE RELEVANT, BUT SURELY THE OTHER JURORS WILL BE LOOKING TO HER TO -- FOR SOME GUIDANCE, FOR SOME INSIGHT ON HOW TO INTERPRET THIS EVIDENCE.

THAT'S WHERE -- IT'S REALLY A STRAIGHTFORWARD CASE FROM A DEFENSE PERSPECTIVE.

IT'S ALL GOING TO COME DOWN TO THE CROSS-EXAMINATION OF THE STATE'S EXPERT AND THE DEFENSE EXAMINATION -- THE CROSS-EXAMINATION OF THE GOVERNMENT'S EXPERT AND THE DIRECT EXAMINATION OF THE DEFENSE EXPERT.

THAT'S THE DEFENSE'S CASE.

>> Cathy: MISS PRINCE, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT THE JURY.

MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE RACIAL MAKEUP OF THIS JURY, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE DIVERSE THAN THE COUNTY WHERE THE TRIAL'S BEING HELD.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> WELL, ON THE ONE HAND, IT'S POSITIVE TO SEE THAT OF THE 12 OFFICIAL JURORS, THE TWO ALTERNATE JURORS AND THE ONE EXTRA JUROR, THERE ARE NINE WHITE PEOPLE, THERE ARE SIX PEOPLE OF COLOR, WHERE IN HENNEPIN COUNTY IS ONLY 17 PERCENT OF COLOR AND MINNEAPOLIS ITSELF IS ONLY 20% PEOPLE OF COLOR.

HOWEVER, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OF THOSE SIX JURORS OF COLOR, FOUR OF WHOM ARE BLACK, TWO OF WHOM ARE ACTUALLY -- TWO OF THE BLACK JURORS ARE ACTUALLY IMMIGRANTS TO THIS COUNTRY, WHICH MEANS THEY MAY NOT, IN FACT, HAVE ANY MORE EXPERIENCE WITH AMERICAN RACISM THAN THE WHITE JURORS DO.

IT'S ALSO DISCONCERTING THAT DURING VOIR DIRE, THE JURY SELECTION PROCESS, AN AFRICAN AMERICAN JUROR, WHO IS NOT AN IMMIGRANT, SPOKE TO HAVING EXPERIENCED RACISM AND TO HAVING WITNESSED RACISM IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

AND THE DEFENSE STRUCK HIM SAYING THAT HE COULDN'T BE IMPARTIAL TOWARD A FORMER POLICE DEFENDANT, EVEN THOUGH THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR SAID THAT HE COULD.

IN 1986, THE SUPREME COURT RULED THAT IT'S IMPERMISSIBLE TO STRIKE A JUROR SOLELY BECAUSE OF RACE.

HOWEVER, IF A POTENTIAL JUROR CAN BE STRUCK SOLELY BECAUSE OF HAVING EXPERIENCED RACISM, THEN SOME MIGHT THINK THAT THAT'S ALMOST THE SAME THING.

>> Cathy: SAY, BEFORE WE GO, MARK OSLER, I BET YOU WATCHED PERRY MASON AS A KID, ANY POTENTIAL FOR LIKE A PERRY MASON-LIKE BOMBSHELL?

>> OH, THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE FOR BOMB SHELLS AND THEY CAN GO ALL DIFFERENT WAYS.

ONE THING THAT COULD HAPPEN, WE TALK ABOUT DEREK CHAUVIN TEFTION.

THAT'S DEREK CHAUVIN'S CHOICE TO MAKE AND HE CAN GO AGAINST THE ADVICE OF HIS COUNSEL AND DECIDE TO TAKE THE STAND.

THOSE OF US THAT HAVE TRIED CASES HAVE SEEN THAT HAPPEN.

AND THAT'S WHEN THERE'S REAL FIREWORKS.

IT'S A LONG SHOT THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BUT THAT'S ONE THING THAT COULD REALLY THROW A WRENCH INTO THE WORKS.

>> Eric: WE GOTTA RUN.

YOU REALLY SET THE STAGE GREAT FOR US.

HOPE TO HAVE YOU BACK.

AND ALL THE BEST.

THANKS.

>> Cathy: THANK YOU, ALL.

♪♪♪ >> ERIC: IT'S TIME FOR US TO ASK ANOTHER INDEX FILE QUESTION.

GET OUT YOUR NOTE PADS.

THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION.

IN THE LATE 1990S, THE PUBLICATION "ADVERTISING AGE" MADE A LIST OF THE TOP TEN ADVERTISING ICONS OF THE 20TH CENTURY.

THE LIST INCLUDED THREE AD ICONS WITH MINNESOTA CONNECTIONS.

WE WANT YOU TO TELL US THE TOP-RANKED MINNESOTA ICON ON THE LIST.

YES, OF COURSE YOU CAN GOOGLE THIS.

BUT WHAT'S THE FUN IN THAT?

JUST MAKE A GUESS AND WE'LL REWARD THE FIRST RIGHT ANSWER WE RECEIVE.

WHAT WAS THE TOP-RANKED MINNESOTA ICON FEATURED IN THIS "ADVERTISING AGE" LIST IN THE 1990S?

GIVE US A JINGLE WHETHER YOU ARE CALLING IN FROM NEAR BAKER LAKE, CHOW LAKE, DINNER LAKE OR GRUB LAKE.

ALL REAL BODIES OF WATER IN OUR STATE.

651-229-1430 IS THE NUMBER TO USE.

AGAIN, 651-229-1430.

AND IF YOU ARE SHY, FEEL FREE TO USE OUR EMAIL OPTION.

ALMANAC@TPT.ORG.

BEFORE WE GO, A REMINDER TO TUNE IN TO "ALMANAC AT THE CAPITOL" EACH WEDNESDAY NIGHT DURING THE SESSION ON YOUR LOCAL PBS STATION.

LAWMAKERS MAY BE ON BREAK NEXT WEEK, BUT NOT THE ALMANAC AT THE CAPITOL TEAM.

WEDNESDAY 7:00 P.M. MAKE IT A DATE NIGHT.

ALSO, YOU CAN WATCH GOVERNOR WALZ DELIVER HIS STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS SUNDAY AT 6:00 P.M. ON THE MINNESOTA CHANNEL.

THERE WILL BE A REPUBLICAN REPONSE AS WELL.

I'LL BE THE HOST.

THAT'S SUNDAY AT 6:00 ON THE SAME STATION YOU WATCH LEGISLATIVE TV.

FOR SHOW-CLOSING MUSIC, THIS WEEK IN 1983 LEO KOTTKE PERFORMED AT THE OLD KTCA STUDIOS BY THE STATE FAIRGROUNDS.

LET'S GO TONIGHT WITH HIM SINGING A GREAT TUNE "RINGS."

THANKS FOR WATCHING.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT WEEK.

BE CAREFUL.

♪ RING, RING, TELEPHONE RING, SOMEBODY SAID, BABY, WHAT YOU DOIN' ♪ ♪ I BEEN WONDERIN' WHERE YOU BEEN, NOW I BETTER THINK ABOUT YOU AND ME ♪ ♪ NO USE FIGHTIN' ABOUT THINGS WE CAN'T RECALL ♪ ♪ BECAUSE IT DON'T MATTER NOW AT ALL ♪ Captioned by: Paradigm Reporting & Captioning www.paradigmreporting.com ♪ BEEN WONDERIN' WHERE YOU BEEN, BEEN FEELIN' DOWN ♪ >> "ALMANAC" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY MEMBERS OF THIS PUBLIC TELEVISION STATION.

SUPPORT IS ALSO PROVIDED BY· GREAT RIVER ENERGY: PROVIDING ELECTRICITY AND RELATED SERVICES TO 28 CO-OPS IN MINNESOTA.

A TOUCHSTONE ENERGY COOPERATIVE.

DELTA DENTAL OF MINNESOTA FOUNDATION: INVESTING $25 MILLION TO IMPROVE DENTAL CARE FOR MINNESOTANS IN NEED.

DELTADENTALMN.ORG/TPT.

THE SHAKOPEE MDEWAKANTON SIOUX COMMUNITY: A TRIBAL NATION FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY AND COLLABORATION - ESPECIALLY IN TIMES LIKE TODAY.

ENBRIDGE: CONNECTING MINNESOTANS WITH ENERGY FOR OVER 70 YEARS.

MORE AT ENBRIDGE.COM/LINETHREEUS.

AND EDUCATION MINNESOTA: THE VOICE FOR PROFESSIONAL EDUCATORS AND STUDENTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

MORE AT EDUCATIONMINNESOTA.ORG.

"ONE GREATER MINNESOTA" REPORTING ON "ALMANAC" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY THE OTTO BREMER TRUST, WHOSE MISSION IS INVESTING IN PEOPLE, PLACES AND OPPORTUNITIES IN THE UPPER MIDWEST.

ADDITIONAL SUPPORT COMES FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS FOUNDATION, INSPIRING AND ENGAGING IN ACTION TO REALIZE STRONG, VIBRANT COMMUNITIES, AND FROM THE BLANDIN FOUNDATION.

>> "ALMANAC" IS A PRODUCTION OF TWIN CITIES PBS FOR THE STATIONS OF MINNESOTA PUBLIC TELEVISION ASSOCIATION.