>> Cathy: A FORMER CHILDREN'S THEATRE COMPANY EMPLOYEE HAS BEEN INDICTED ON FEDERAL CHILD PORNOGRAPHY CHARGES.

AS THE NEWS SPREAD THIS WEEK IT BROUGHT UP SOME PRETTY DARK MEMORIES OF THE THEATER'S SEX ABUSE SCANDAL DATES BACK TO THE '70s AND '80s.

FILMMAKER NORAH SHAPIRO CHRONICLED SURVIVOR STORIES IN HER 2025 DOCUMENTARY "MAGIC & MONSTERS."

HER SON IS ALSO A FORMER CHILD ACTOR AT THE THEATER SO IT HAD TO BE A PRETTY TOUGH WEEK FOR YOU.

>> IT'S BEEN INTERESTING, I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY.

>> THE CTC ISSUED A STATEMENT AFTER THE NEWS CAME OUT SAYING IT'S KIND OF APPLES AND ORANGES.

THEY HAD SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.

THIS PERSON DIDN'T REALLY HAVE MUCH IN THE WAY OF, YOU KNOW, -- HE WASN'T REALLY INTERACTING WITH THE ACTORS THAT MUCH.

THIS IS NOTHING AS, THAT THE HISTORIC ABUSE WAS IN THE PAST.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?

>> WHAT I MAKE OF THAT IS THAT WHILE THE ALLEGATIONS OF THE ALLEGED -- THE ALLEGED CRIME MAY BE DIFFERENT BUT THE LARGER SUBJECT AND THE WAY IT'S BEING HANDLED BY THE INSTITUTION, THERE UNFORTUNATE IS A COMMON THREAD.

AND I LEARNED ABOUT THIS BY RECEIVING A SCREEN GRAB AND A TEXT EARLY IN THE MORNING FROM A FRIEND WHOSE DAUGHTER WAS ALSO A CHILD ACTOR AT THE THEATER.

I HAD NOT RECEIVED THAT E-MAIL, NEVER HAVE, NOR HAS MY SON, NOR AT THIS POINT HAVE MANY MANY MANY PEOPLE.

SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY DECIDED WHO STAKEHOLDERS ARE.

BUT THE POINT IS THAT WHAT I SEE AS A REPEAT, WHETHER OR NOT THE SPECIFICS ARE APPLES OR ORANGES, IS THE WAY IN WHICH IT'S THE REPUTATION OF THE INSTITUTION, LIABILITY, REPUTATION, WHOSE INTERESTS ARE REALLY BEING ADDRESSED UP FRONT AND CENTER.

>> Eric: AND THAT INFORMS THE QUOTE THE MECHANICS OF NOT SEEING THAT I SAW YOU QUOTED AS SAYING THIS WEEK?

>> I DON'T REMEMBER IF I EXACTLY SAID THAT BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S IN THE VICINITY OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> Cathy: IT HAS TO BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE ADULT SURVIVORS TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE NEWS.

>> YES.

AND WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT I DID REACH OUT TO SEVERAL OF THE SUBJECTS IN THE, WHO WERE IN THE FILM, SUBJECT PARTICIPANTS IN THE FILM WHO WERE FORMER CHILD ACTORS AND THEY WERE ALSO LITIGANTS.

JUST TO LET THEM KNOW I FELT OBLIGATED SINCE I KNEW THIS AND TO VERY CAREFULLY REACH OUT AND LET THEM KNOW THIS WAS HAPPENING.

AND INQUIRED, HAD THEY ALREADY KNOWN ABOUT THIS, AND THEY DID NOT.

THEY HAVE NOT BEEN CONTACTED, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BY THE THEATER.

AND OF COURSE IT'S, HOW COULD IT NOT BE TRIGGERING?

>> Eric: THERE ARE SEVERAL MOVING PARTS HERE AND I WONDER WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE TO THE THEATER, THE NEWS MEDIA, TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I THINK I'M GOING TO TAKE THOSE IN REVERSE.

I MEAN, LAW ENFORCEMENT AT HIS JUNCTURE IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT WAS IN THE EARLY DAYS OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE '70s AND '80s AND I THINK FOR THE MOST PART THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEY HAVE EXPERTS AND THEY JUST NEED TO KEEP DOING IT AND THAT INVOLVES HAVING TRAUMA INFORMED PRACTICES WHEN CHILDREN ARE INVOLVED.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW ANY DETAILS OF THIS INVESTIGATION.

I DO KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE HE WAS DIRECTLY INTERACTING WITH MY SON AND WITH MANY CHILDREN.

BEYOND THAT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.

MEDIA.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SUBJECT THAT IT'S SO EASY TO LOOK AWAY FROM.

I COMMEND "ALMANAC," THIS IS MY SECOND TIME HERE AT THIS TABLE TALKING WITH YOU UYS, OR MAYBE THE COUCH.

AND RATHER THAN LOOKING AWAY THIS HAS TO BE TALKED ABOUT AND LOOKED AT.

AND AS FAR AS THE THEATER, I MEAN, THAT'S A HARD ONE FOR ME TO START WITH.

I WOULD START WITH IF MY RECOMMENDATION CARRIED ANY WEIGHT, IT IS MAYBE THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN AND THE FORMER CHILDREN, WHEN ARE YOUR STAKEHOLDERS AND WHAT IS YOUR JOB.

ARE YOU PROTECTING YOUR REPUTATION, OR ARE YOU REALLY GENUINELY RECKONING WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST, WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED MORE RECENTLY, AND WHAT IS THE COMMON THREAD IN THERE?

THAT'S I GUESS MY ANSWER TO THAT.

>> Cathy: IN THE WAKE OF THIS STORY, YOU ARE STREAMING ON KINEMA.COM, ""MAGIC AND MONSTERS."

WHY?

SO WE ARE, WITHOUT GETTING INTO ALL THE -- >> Cathy: JUST BRIEFLY.

>> -- SOB STORY OR THE STORY OF DISTRIBUTION, WE ARE JUST ABOUT A YEAR OUT OF PREMIERING THE FILM.

WE'RE STILL DOING SOME FESTIVAL SCREENING, WORKING OUT OUR DISTRIBUTION.

BUT IN LIGHT OF THE, THESE EVENTS AND THIS IMPORTANT HISTORY AND UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUE AND THE DEMAND WE JUST THOUGHT WE WOULD MAKE FOR A BRIEF TIME, AVAILABLE.

>> Cathy: ALL RIGHT, NORAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU.

>> Cathy: WELL, ERIC AND I